techspot released their Ryzen 5900x vs 10900k review using an RTX 3090 with orgasmic gaming numbers that will have fan boys from both parties tossing their poop at each other.
Here is the thing most of them will miss, the worse performing CPU in their gaming suite was the Ryzen 1600 (original AE), a CPU that even AMD fan boys would balk at as a gaming CPU. Thing is in the 11 games that CPU averaged 124 FPS with 98FPS avg at 1% lows. I know it’s a completely unrealistic build (with a RTX 3090) but with more moderate GPUs you will bring the CPUs results closer together. The toughest game for the 1600 was Serious Sam 4 at 68/48 avgFPS/1%minavg.
So what do you need to see in order to get the full performance of these CPUs.
game engines that need (need not use) more then 4c/8t - still years away
RTX 2080ti/3080 video performance - this is different for each person but as a whole most people are at GTX1060/RX 580 performance so this years away.
monitors with a refresh at 100hz+ - this is really all over place as A) much like video cards it’s unique to the individual B) as a whole most people are still at 1080p 60hz but C) what is their next upgrade? 1080p 144hz, 1440p 75hz, 4k 60hz? Or any sort of combination and I only mentioned a few possibilities.
So these eight core+ 5ghz CPUs from Intel and AMD are great and if you have the the set up to let them show off their performance that’s great but for most people any modern 4c/8t CPU is going to give them close to 100FPS or more if their GPU is capable of it.
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You’re right, the fan is a throw away but it’s all the Ryzen 5 5600x needs.
People who are spending $300 on a CPU and pairing it with a GPU where the CPU speeds matter are not likely to keep using the Stealth, IMO.
And you can get a cheap $20-30 cooler on that 10600k (with 10th gen’s updated thermal performance) and it will be fine still and still be a lot cheaper.
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maybe $50 once rocket lake launches but frankly IMO it should be $229 now. The Ryzen 5600x should be $249 max IMO. Currently the best gaming CPU for it’s price is the i5-10400 @ $175 (should be $150 IMO). The Ryzen 3600 was $200 or more in many places outside microcenter and even their it’s $179.
Yeah, the 10400 is a good value right now, but I’m hesitant to recommend it often because to get the most out of it you still want a decent motherboard for faster memory, which we know helps, and then it tends to be a rabbit hole of “just a bit more” until the 10400 doesn’t make sense anymore.
So for me the $30 up on the 3600 with PCIE4 makes a little more sense once you’ve added all the “enhancement benefits” to make the 10400 great.
Just going to quote myself, outside of red dead redemption the Ryzen 5 also beat the i5 10600k in every other game. The price isn’t great true, but PCIe 4.0, more efficient node, and superior multi core performance.
true but the DIY buyers are getting after market coolers anyway. It’s only the OEM buyers that will be using the cooler (assuming the OEM installs it). Frankly I would tell AMD to keep the cooler and I’ll take a discount.
People defended the 3600, despite it being slower than the 10600k/9700k at games, because it was cheaper and when GPU bound it didn’t matter that much.
I’m just saying that’s the same logic I’m applying with the 10600k now.
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Eh, I disagree here. I liked the first-third gen coolers for the most part.
I’m using a Wraith Prism on my overclocked 1600, and it doesn’t even sweat it. The stealth though is trash.
There’s actually tons of cheap z490 boards that give locked i5’s access to ddr4 3200 memory. Great move by intel, they really needed to be more competitive in the mid range.
Cheapest one I saw was $129 for a Z490 vs around $85 for a B550, which is the hard part to get past.
Although now I feel like I’m working myself into a corner, because for a 10600k you’ll want a Z490 too, and you can throw a 5600x on a cheap $85 B550.
fml
Fair, still wouldn’t buy a $85 b550 though. Maybe those are b550m that are rebadged b450’s.
the 10400 is still pretty good with 2666mhz RAM and a budget mobo. You are correct on the 3600 but you will need a pricey GPU to see that difference and I have a rule of thumb, never pay more for an older tech product then the price it launched at. Contrary to popular opinion, tech does not get faster the longer it ages.
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The Gigabyte DS3H is decent for non-OC chips, iirc
Yeah, I have had a rough time telling people to get the 3600 for $200 when it was $179 forever.
I suppose the takeaway is that timing is key.
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I’m really enjoying my new mattress though. Lily thanks for the recommendation. 
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Seems like Microcenter heard your wishes.
10600k @ 250
10700k @ 320
10850k @ 400
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GN released a new review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=429&v=6x2BYNimNOU&feature=emb_title
Some games the Zen 3 chips fall behind, in others like Total War it pulls ahead strong.
awesome! We have a similar one and love ours. My MIL bought one of the cheaper pure memory foam twin mattress for my five year old when she sleeps over. The mattress is comfy but really has no support on the edge.
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yea I only get my CPUs there. Paid $279 for my 9700k a few months after its launch. Nabbed a Ryzen 2600x for $79 on clearance. I have a whole list of other CPUs I purchased from there for under $100.
But honestly those prices you listed should be at amazon, newegg, bestbuy with microcenter being cheaper.