‘Twas the night before zen3

I wonder if I can nab a 3600 for under $130…

BH photo is taking preorder if you want to attempt to get a zen3 processor.

Wish y’all the best of luck if you’re trying to snag one at 6am PST.

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Waiting for reviews.

Early review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxKw0cIUCtI

Another early review, this one is written.

https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/test_procesora_amd_ryzen_5_5600x_amd_utarlo_nosa_intelowi-13913.html?fbclid=IwAR0ru0Sf2pI-ShuZZsV5niOAsod2O9PEWUhDGFMnY3bVtnUPg0vcTUDc7Z4

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Review is out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-5900x-zen-3-review

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-5900x/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBIeM2zE-I

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from what I see on techspot and TPU

the ryzen 5600x offers intel 10700k performance with both stock
the ryzen 5800x & 5900x offers intel 10900k gaming performance with both at stock

Intel really needs to drop the price of that 10700k.

Not really strong enough to consider upgrading for me still based on the TPU benchmarks. In fact theirs are a LOT more conservative than everyone else’s benchmarks. Weird.

Edit: seems most of the others only reviewed the 5950x, strange choice when it’s not going to be the most popular offering vs the 5600x or 5800x.

Seems like I should expect on average single digit improvement at 1080p with a 5800x vs my 5ghz 8700k, and to completely vanish at 1440p+ in most games.

This 3 year old 8700k… Is turning into an i7-2600k the chip that just won’t quit

Maybe zen 4.

yeah still reading some of these reviews but the 5900x makes no sense as a pure gaming CPU as the 5800x gives you the exact same performance. The 5600x needs a $50 price cut otherwise it’s a very good gaming CPU. Not enough to move on from Ryzen 3600 and i7-8700 but still nice improvements.

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I just wonder how long I’m going to be in this thing. I don’t even think Rocket lake will be that big either.

I guess when it breaks

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I’m not counting on huge gains there either. My 9700k @5ghz rips through everything I toss at it. Until it bottlenecks my GPUs I’m not moving on from it.

We are like on the 5+ year plan it seems.

Maybe next time, AMD/Intel.

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The reality is that I won’t “need” to upgrade until my CPU (along with whatever GPU I have) won’t push 100FPS minimum in games that I play.

Which if I’m willing to play with settings, should be a loooooong time.

The problem is not buying stuff in between “just because”.

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I think as tech fans we all want the next “sandy bridge” from either Intel or AMD where we can say that 2500k/2600k is the no brainer selection. As gamers there really is no difference anymore between AMD or Intel on the CPU side. They pretty much give you the exact same performance now, so that’s great as a consumer but what I really want to see is great $200 gaming CPU.

AMD fans can rally around PCIe 4.0 but Intel will have it in March via rocket lake and frankly it doesn’t bottle neck GPUs or games at this point in time.

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See it’s funny I rode through all of Intel’s first, second, and third generations of Intel Core series.

Went from a Q9450 directly to an i5-4570 several years later.

Actually looking back at release dates thats exactly 5 years difference, lol.

Guess I really am on the 5 year plan.

Although i5-4570 to i7-8700k was only 4 years.

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So i got up extra early to snag a new Ryzen, i went for the 5600x and got one before they sold out, i heard the top tier ones sold out like they were never there lol. also ended up picking up some new Antec 120mm case fans. :slight_smile:

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Base on initial reviews. Seems like Zen3 does live up to it beating/tying with Intel.

Seems like current price points are acceptable as well.
A: 3600 @ $200 (In stock for most places)
A: 5600 @ $300 ( Probably will be in and out of stock for 2-3 months)
I: 10600k @ $270 (In stock for most places)

No reason for people to make the jump from (Coffee Lake) Intel to AMD as expected.

Maybe: people who needed fast cores as well as more of them, but the lower single threaded performance from Zen +/2 in their workloads wasn’t worth going with AMD, so they got 9900ks or 10900ks instead of 3900x’s/3950x’s. Now that there’s really no downsides to getting the AMD chips, they might want to jump ship to a 5900x or 5950x for equal/better single threaded performance and much wider resources for whatever stuff they do outside of gaming.

I could see that scenario.

coffee hasn’t kicked in yet,
but yes agreed. If they’re after more cores yes, but for gaming its going to be a harder case to argue unless you’re just itching to upgrade or trying to squeeze out extra fps.

I wonder how b450 and previous generation are going to fair once the BIOS update gets drop for them. Hoping the firmware team test their product as much as they can before dropping it.

One of my previous client is donating his build minus the gpu back to me. Going to have a spare b450 motherboard to play with in December.

The thermals I saw on Pauls’ Hardware (or was it LTT? I can’t remember) seem to indicate these are much hotter chips. The 5950x was topping out at 87c?..in A64, which is a pretty tame test. IIRC they were using beefy coolers as well, and the 10900k was much much cooler.

I think thermally these things are a lot harder to manage. If they’re getting that hot, they have to be pulling more juice. My guess is that older/weaker boards will not be suitable for the higher end chips.

AHHH my micro center has 1 3080 and 1 5900x in stock…idk what to pick!