Then you dont need to be over 385.
it’s an MMO, ofc the more time you put into it, the farther ahead/more powerful you’ll be…as long as you’re not a trashcan ofc
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The more you remove RNG and add protective features the less it feels like an MMO.
MMORPGs are a LONG term time investment, in order to do so the RNG is added to prevent people from getting BiS week 1.
It isn’t difficult, but you’re removing the longevity.
If you don’t want to grind.
You’re playing the wrong game, respectfully.
Never heard of any of those sources to get gear.
People must think casual means “person who scours the internet all day for sources of easy epic lewtzzz”.
Education time: casuals do stuff in life besides play World of Warcraft, their thoughts don’t revolve around it 24/7. I know it’s hard to believe these people exist, but they do.
Of course, none of this stuff is listed in game and OF COURSE, that will be excused and explained away also. The people who play this above casual will defend all the bad game play design because they don’t know any better.
So which MMO has good game design?
And why aren’t you playing their game instead?
You’re acting like we aren’t aware of the other MMORPGs on the market.
So please elaborate if we have TRIED the other ones, and still come back.
If you open your eyes, and look around, you’d notice gear all around you. It’s not rocket science. Stop assuming everyone lives to hold your hand through every minor change.
In the context of this conversation, Fallout 76 has better game design because it actually makes me aware of which rewards might come from where and I do play that game. I dunno why I MUST play it instead of WoW, you’re acting like multiple games can’t be played simultaneously while still making a point.
You’re trying to make some nail in the coffin, GOTCHA! point, but it’s too black and white to work. I’m just asking for WoW to insinuate IN GAME that the gear is easy to obtain, rather than needing people on the forums to rude exclaim it’s all available if we’d just open our dumb, casual eyes (which you know is the tone in here.)
The game isn’t “everyone”, I was talking about having this stuff listed in game. Yeah… You can’t read.
I mean, you’re talking about two completely different genres of games.
This is why the loot distribution is different.
Fallout 76 is basically an MMO in gameplay. You log in and do world events for random drops. I like that you tried to bail out by saying it’s a “completely different genre”. Eh, I’ll let you have your straw man, it’s not a convo worth arguing for lol.
No it isn’t please stop, not even it’s own developers and fanbase considers it an “mmo”
you’re absolutely right, you reached so hard the conversation does indeed, end here.
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Im sorry but with storm gear, bi weekly wq, weekly and crafting i have no incentive to Do m+ raid or pvp i just Play what i want to Play and gets the gears i need to accomplish it.
I understood your post and can clearly read and figure out wow (an easy game)
You want wow, and blizzard to literally hold your hand for you, hell you might as well get ion to play for you since you prob can barely do that too right? The game’s not hard, idiots make it hard.
I know 6 casual players IRL. None have done greater than a m2 or even started normal raids yet. A couple have done Raid Finder.
Is this good or bad? Sorry, seemed like a unfinished thought. lol - not flaming
Like I said, it’s been shown again and again that players will optimise the game out of the game, meaning that they will farm currency in the most efficient way, purchase the best gear, outgear the content and then complain that there’s nothing to do.
You think you want deterministic gear upgrades but you don’t.
I am at 392 and I haven’t even run 30 M+ AND the keys I have been running were mostly +9s, not 15+.
Guess I am an exceptional case. You just need to know how the system works and gearing suddenly becomes ultra easy, people can get 382+ from crafting (Sparks or epic training matrix) storms give 385 on a weekly currency limit, baby level PvP can get you 389s with conquest…
Gearing is ultra easy this expansion.
Usually, I’m very critical of the gearing paths in wow but this expansion has been dropping gear like pouring rain.
sure never change mmo’s as the numbers dwindle people are hilarious.