when we’re having troubles in every matchup? Do you guys even pay attention to whats going on? Elf just came up with another strat to beat human and it’s even moreso abuse then the last one. That’s 3 strats that elf has to beat Human. Dh/naga beardry. Warden economy abuse bear/dry and now Kotg/naga/potm mgs. Human has rifles and thats it. Can’t expand vs elf unless they go DH or you somehow negated warden’s early game harass. expoing vs kotg is lol. Why are you nerfing rifles?
Orc beats human easily. Have to severly outplay the orc to beat a level 3 TC and even then its not enough. They have way more options then human does. Human going spellbreakers and priests means kodos grunt shaman and wyv. Human adds in dhawks which you then have to outnumber the wyvs for them to be effective and are essentially useless after the orc stops making wyvs. Meanwhile the ground units somehow have to beat LS tc and wolves critting your casters and all your armed with is a trash dispel. Spellbreakers use to work but again you need a significant number for them to be effective and 2-3 kodos makes them useless. humans have been going rifle priest to counter economy harass/ kodos and have enough DPS to stop a TC from speed scrolling and stomping at will. But now you’re taking rifles away from Human. What are we supposed to do now? Spellbreakers are not enough…
Ud vs human. Ud has always steamrolled human. Human have to avoid all fights and tank the ud to win. Better buff UD. Thanks blizzard! By taking away rifles onebase t3rifles are now obsolete. Maintaining a expo while teching to t3 isnt possible vs UD. Ud can easily break your expo no matter what “sim city” you come up with to negate the fiends from hitting your towers thanks to Pitlord and DK’s neverending mana pool thanks to statues that outperform level 3 brill.
You buff UD to give them more options for a starting hero but also leave human in the dust is despicable. Our race is tiered towards brilliance aura and you gave us the weakest hero in the game to work with. Meanwhile UD has the best Aura in the game and their race is overwhelming with it and instead of nerfing that aura you give them more options while nerfing human that is struggling with the very limited options they have.
I’m learning how to play ud now because i don’t want to play human anymore. If i do beat a undead or night elf its 30 minute games and that;s not enjoyable. I hope you realize how silly nerfing rifles are when humans are so limited to begin with.
vs every race we’re completely limited now and nerfing our only unit that does damage outside of knights isnt going to help us with our variety. MK/pala first is now laughable seeing how badly human will need the Water elementals just to SURVIVE.
Unlike most races you cant just tech to t3 and get t3 units. Human will lose before that.
What and why would you ever nerf rifles. Can we get a better explanation then a 50 food rifle push vs ud that doesn’t work? If the UD scouts and see’s t2 rifles and still techs to t3 without producing fiends then thats the HU fault? same with elf? How dare HU try to punish races for teching to t3? I don’t get the logic at all. Especially when it’s been proven that economy harass stops a human from pushing at t2.
Its trick isn’t it? One can only balance for the highest tier players.
Also let us not forget that this is not for no reason on the Test Realm. The best Humans already gave feedback to it. Lets see how it evolves over time but we, as a community, have to accept that we have not the reputation to decide what should be changed and what not.
Lol? Humans are weak against Orc? You kidding me? A lvl 3-4 MK can chain clap and almost single handedly win against an orc army. Combo with slow and breakers, and an archmage with blizz, there’s almost no comp orcs can use to win against that mid game
Blizzard talks to the pros directly but you can see the trends on Pad Ladder.
w3champions. com/OverallStatistics
Select the MMR, click some maps you are interested in and see for yourself that Humans are not the best race but also not the worst
you cant use w3champions as true stats. half the pros don’t play it. nice try though.
also to that orc player if your letting a MK get level 4 and a Archmage spend 400gold to retrain to blizzard and he has slow and breakers then sorry but thats your fault. How could you let that happen? Orc has a huge advantage throughout the game. You cherry picked the hardest moment for the orc and it’s still a winnable fight as orc has 50g speedscrolls to ignore spellbreakers/slow and stomp their heart out.
You can also compare it with the netease stats or tournament results or listen to toptier player talk about balance.
Makes me wonder if you only want to annoy people or just want Human get buffed because ToD is your hero.
I am done talking to you. Train your matchup and if you still think a different race is better, then go play the best race.
See you at WGL 2020 Summer
Tod is my hero? what is wrong with you? If you look at netease stats or tournament results again human is 3rd to last of the races but within the next couple of months will be last. Where are you getting your information from? Do you listen to top tier pro’s? Do you know infi stopped playing human vs ud? Or that Hawk is something like 40-2 vs happy? What are you talking about? Are you implying there’s a human out there that’s saying human is imbalanced?
You must be a grubby lover i assume? Does this all boil down to grubby vs tod with you? I’m sorry but im not here for your weird fetishes. Human is in a very bad place right now and nerfing them is ridiculous
The moment when you bring up Happy and Happy has the worst stats against Human
oh boy
And? Will you be satisfied when UD gets a harder nerf than Humans?
Yes. Exactly. Because ToD’s rage and childish behave is not my drive to dislike him and his majority of fanbase (the 5 that not got banned) so I must be a Grubby fan. KK
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Try telling him why he is wrong, see how irrational he will reply and then ask yourself what you did better
am i saying to nerf other races? Im saying dont nerf rifles. Get it together man its getting really awkward. Your the one coming in here all full of steam saying this and that without sources so i replied. Don’t know what you were expecting
oh boy