You are wrong when the Blizzard patch really did the job of optimizing the main menu, there were a lot of good reviews.
It took Blizzard extra time to bring the game into a state that was demonstrated to us in the demo version. The players waited, but in the end received nothing. Therefore, anger is justified.
Let’s be honest with ourselves.
Closed beta community is over. Public community is now.
We paid money for a full game, we were promised new hangman scenes, reworked maps, new plot twists … But what to say here, they have not even changed the game download logo !!! Shame on Blizzard! It is a shame to these developers who brazenly lie and steal money from us by selling one product and giving out another! This is a huge hoax! Blizzard and their developers should be responsible, not apologizing! Seriously, they didn’t have time to release the game, but they had time to raise money from us!
The truth is that fans are guilty too, they requested #nochanges and they scrapped a lot of things. There’s no excuse for releasing such an unfinished product, though.
I’m glad they kept Golden’s grubby hands off a classic.
To all of you claiming “You werent paying attention”, youre full of crap.
The official website as of now STILL SHOWS the changed, re-voiced, re-shot culling cinematic trailer for the story section. So ALL the 100s of thousands of people that ordered this are supposed to ignore the OFFICIAL SITE AND TRAILER BLIZZARD STILL HAS UP on the page you BUY THE GAME and instead go dig up and read blizcon interviews and comments. This is straight up false advertising. The official site you buy the game STILL SHOWS the old trailer. So take youre ‘read the interviews’ and shove it right where im shoving my demand for a full refund.
if you want to eat this s**t, eat. And doesnt matter what you say. I PAID FOR A FULL NORMAL GAME!
Then why remove custom campaigns?
Who asked for that?
No, Blizzard isn’t saying so. Read the forums and you’ll realize these are the same #nochanges hipsters who ruined WoW Classic.
WoW Classic is in a worse state than Reforged. At least we will see improvements in this game, but in WoW, Blizzard is refusing to communicate and to accept feedback from the player base. Botters and abusers run that game and they won’t do anything about that.
I’m not talking about the technical aspect of Wow, but the overall experience. Casual players like it, the hardcore ones don’t. Look at their forums, they look like the Reforged forums right now. I’ve quit it too because I couldn’t stand being ripped off.
What’s going on with your TFT? You can’t run the game, or what’s the issue?
Yes, the same happened with SC:R. I’m not an expert, but It’s probably the only way to ensure compatibility between the two versions. Splitting the community is obviously not the solution here. Is that what you’re suggesting?
Exactly this is the main problem! I dont get people like Kynmarcher which keeps defending this…
Maybe like 5 to 15% of people will dig every corner of the internet to get every freaking info but most of the people 80% if not more will just go on official sites and read info there and i believe most of them will just check official video and thats just it… People are too lazy and dumb to give more efford but he just dont get it… I tried to keep myself updated about Reforged and at least kept track of patch in beta and played beta or watch Grubby playing every new build of the game… But i entered forums just after release…I did not watched every single freaking interview and stuff like that…
People like Kynmarcher also ignore fact that there was a HALF YEAR SILENCE after 2018 Blizzcon till they finaly gave us some info. They were SILENT for half year about something which was pre-paid by ALOT of people… Thats just shows how much they dont care about players. No official Update development video to show that they decided to not do alot of things they presented on Blizzcon. No article on official site. All they did was article about more rewards for Spoil of the War edition… Them “stuning” SKINS so they could get even more people to buy more expensive edition. And they probably done that only because they knew that 40 euros is just a little bit too much for Remaster of the game with 70% srapped content they presented at first. This is just like bad kickstarter project which ended up unfinished or scrapped out of content which made people pledge for it.
Who are these people who wanted the campaign to stay exactly the same? The was no beta for that right?.. Are the people blizzard staff perhaps?
There is a difference between better camera angles and acting in cut scene and changing the story. Pull back on better cinematics is just a sad joke! I am fine with keeping the story the same for the purists but the least Blizzard could do is make it feel more modern.
Exactly there were actually very few people who complained against that, the MAIN thing “purists” complained about was the VOICE-ACTING, that they didnt want new WoW voice actors to replace original WC3 voice actors. The one other thing was that many ppl didnt want any lore additions.
Other than that MOST people were entirely open for map changes and entirely remade cutscenes. Ofc some ppl would have complained about those as well, but people werent really actively complaining about them.
So ye you are absolutely right that the least Blizzard could have done, would have been to remake the cutscenes atleast, but unfortunately everyone can count with too small development team and just 1 year + 3 months development time, its something they could not pull off…
And before we start this sarcastic barking that “give Blizzard slack, they are just small indie company”, keep in mind that Reforged team was just small group of people inside Blizzard, while majority of them are working with Diablo IV, Overwatch 2 and WoW expansions + propably with some projects that have not been announced.
I mean you could tell from Blizzcon last year that Reforged was treated like some small insignificant side project and it barely got any time in the spotlight. Activision-Blizzard was never interested in these remasters (aside from perhaps WoW classic) cause they dont bring them tons of money, so ofc WC3: Reforged didnt get the resources, the manpower and the budget it would have deserved.
Oh well lets hope all this backlash would force them to act and hugely improve the game, but if we are realistic, the most we can expect is for them to add in the still missing features from MP/Custom games and fix the bugs/glitches…I dont expect them to do much more than that sadly.
Yeap, you can tell from the current quality of the game that this was simply too much for them to take and get done in the timeframe they had. Blaming “purists” is just an excuse, cause they cant voice out loud that in reality they had too small of a team for this and Activision-Blizzard was not willing to give them the time or resources that “Reforging” this game properly would have required.
You could tell as soon as we didnt hear one word from the beta until October and the lack of presense of WC3: Reforged in Blizzcon that clearly there were far bigger problems in the background.
Alright then shouldn’t ask for 30 eur standard edition and 40 eur spoil of the war edition. They should gave it away as free update for those who already have classic game (since they f up everyone with deleting old client) and 10 to 15 euros MAX for people who don’t. And there would not be such sh1t storm. I would not say a single thing if it was like this. But 30 and 40 euros for this is just pure robbery…
Well I agree that pricing is way too high for what we got with this, imho pricing should be there alongside with SC: Remater that costed 15 euros/bucks
But ye, keep in mind that all of this is also likely decided from Activision-Blizzard side…im not quite sure that Reforged team got to decide how these games would be priced or when the game would be released.
Its those greedy corporation muppets like Bobby Kotick, the head of Activision-Blizzard that you can thank for ruining Blizzard Entertainment. The good old Blizzard would have NEVER released a game in it current state and they would have properly remade all the cutscenes and perhaps even most of the maps if not even added entirely new campaign. But we are not witnessing that same Blizzard anymore, sadly.
Im just saying that you have very much Activision-Blizzard to thank for that and dont take all your hate to Reforged team alone…they were simply too small and were given too short timeframe to properly remaster this game.
I’m not angry on developers. I Understand they have nothing to do with advertising scrapping things, price point and stuff like that. There are other roles in ActiBlizz that have this in their hands. Developers do pretty much what company tell them to do if they had some ideas and higher authority said no! They can tear themselves apart. I understand that. All that hatred is aimed exactly on Activision-Blizzard itself and people responsible for this mess. Not devs itself. And I believe pretty much everyone who is upset will feel the same way. Im not gona refund it even when Im angry that i threw away 40 euros for SoW Edition… This will be another lessons learned for me. Never ever again pre-order game from Activision-Blizzard again. WoW BfA was first finger raised this game was last drop for me.
No, it’s not on him, nor does he need to pay attention. If something is falsely advertised (and this is the case of this, regardless of whether someone else does it as well and it also isn’t a bombastic choice of phrasing either, it’s just what it is), that’s not on you or me or him. He doesn’t have to look at Blizzard panels or even be a wc3 fan for that matter. Your argument doesn’t stand.