Maybe you should go do something else with yours if you’re just going to rehash stuff that’s either (A) been established for 16 years because right now you’re in a tizzy about Warcraft 3 lore and (B) getting mad about something nobody even knows about, meaning whatever Reforged changes/additions they’re going to have in the campaign.
Not a trusted source. Please fight your own arguments…
So you are a trusted source?
You’re the one constantly replying to me literally all the time, clearly you have a massive issue with what I am saying that is more important than anything else to you.
If multiple people have issue with what you have to say, then maybe it’s time to take a step back and think about what you’re saying.
Maybe the issue isn’t the other people. I remember you saying the same thing to me specifically, but now you have someone else doing the same so… what’s that tell you?
This is an argument between you and me. No sources are going to change the purpose of this argument.
The entire purpose of this argument is to express that WOW lore is terrible and that the retcons ruined the lore and as a result, Warcraft 3 reforged should not change the story.
You just want to de-rail the thread in a last ditch attempt to stay relevent in this argument.
I have proved you wrong so many times yet you keep coming back.
Over 300 responces to this thread later… here we are, arguing about pointless stuff which has absolutely nothing to do with the original argument.
Typical WOW fanboy… if you weren’t a WOW fanboy, you wouldn’t be here arguing now would you?
Either that or you’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
It’s more amusing than agitating just because your posting style in regards to how you rebuff other people is kind of like watching a fish flop around on land.
I mean this breakfast is pretty tasty.
From now on I’m just going to ignore everything you say unless it is constructive.
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This entire discussion is based on subjective interpretation of events in TFT. There is no proving wrong an opinion, and I have said such many times. All of the articles I bring up are to show that these are all interpretations of events.
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You will not acknowledge your statement as opinion-based, either as an assumption, theory or interpretation. I have particular beef with people who think there is only one way to read a story. Moreso when they try to prove their interpretation is the only way to see the events.
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You’re projecting ‘typical WoW fanboy’ onto someone who disagrees with your arguments. Again, I am a WC2 fan from the beginning. I don’t hold Warcraft 3 on a pedestal which is why i can freely criticize it. I love the game, but I see the flaws through-and-through, and there are definitely holes in the story like why Sylvanas is motivated to take over Lordaeron. My interpretation is that she is fighting for freedom, since this is mentioned briefly before she fights the Dreadlords. I don’t think it’s the only way to see the events, and I’m fine with your own theory that the Dreadlords motivated her to do so. However, it is not rendered as the generally-accepted view; as I’ve shown through multiple articles.
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Arguments happen between two people. Kettle calling the pot black. You are also arguing, so no point making a big issue out of it. Yes I am arguing, so are you. What are we going to do about it? Argue more, obviously.
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Does that mean you’re going to retroactively go through this thread and scrub all my posts from your memory? You were kind of doing that anyways already though.
Exactly, so why are you bringing up sources? Trying to argue with objective facts in a clearly subjective argument?
You clearly are a WOW fanboy, otherwise you would have no problems with them leaving the story as it is. What could possibly go wrong if they keep the story exactly the same huh?
What if you’re exactly in the middle where you understand why they’re making the additions in Reforged that they are, but would also be fine if it’s left the same?
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Then respect the people who want it left the same… by not arguing with them.
Do you want a Warcraft 4? Well if so then you should be advocating for no changes to the lore so that more people will buy the remaster. Therefore a Warcraft 4 would be more likely to happen in the future as the sales numbers goizzard realizes that RTS is still a viable market.
Or you can argue, nothing changes and we don’t buy, then potentially no Warcraft 4.
It is in our best interest to work together on this, not against each other… unfortunately though, Blizzard communities are hostile by nature and only want to bicker amongst each other, unable to accept other people’s viewpoints.
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You’re ignoring context again. Right now it’s clear they have no changes on radically upheaving and changing the overall lore and history in the Warcraft series. We know this because the Reforged campaign is going to be slightly more modernized. We also know this from another angle, that being that World of Warcraft (the current main platform for the series’ lore and narrative) is still ongoing right now.
You’re turning a blind eye to part of what Reforged is aside from the visual overhaul and modern BattleNet integration.
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You clearly are a WOW fanboy, otherwise you would have no problems with them leaving the story as it is. What could possibly go wrong if they keep the story exactly the same huh?
When did I ever say the story couldn’t be kept the same?
I said clearly that if you want the story to keep the same, you have that with the original campaign. That is not going away.
This is a case of arguing against Reforged. This is a perspective matter. If you don’t like Reforged, don’t play it. But there’s no point acting as if WoW and Reforged do not exist for the rest of the people who are allowed to enjoy it.
You actively speak up and antagonist WoW lore as if no one is allowed to enjoy it. And you wonder why people argue with you.
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Reforged should be about bringing back Warcraft 3 with modernized visuals, not about changing the story and retconning things.
Guess what, they’re probably gonna be hitting 2 out of 3 of those marks.
Modernized visuals and the story not changing.
Retconning is possible but not in the removal/alteration of things but addition. Like they’ve confirmed that Jaina’s getting more dialogue in the Founding of Durotar campaign in regards to the invading forces of Kul Tiras and her father.
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I know it’s not going away… but since you argue for the sake of arguing, you completely missed the whole point in the argument.
I still believe that Varimathras was using Sylvanas for his own ends, I believed this before WOW was even a thing.
You see? This was not about facts or sources, you can’t win an argument with that alone. This is about possibilities and my theory is very much a possibility.
Therefore I will stick with the regular lore.
So the lore that Blizzard has constantly been revisiting and tuning up how they see fit throughout the 25 years of the series existing and the current 2019 canon?
The polygon article mentions Sylvanas… and this is what I take the biggest issue with… mainly because of how she is handled in WOW. They want to make Warcraft 3’s Sylvanas more like WOW’s Sylvanas. That’s what I fear.