So tell me Triceron, how would YOU rate this REMASTER…and why?
What does Blizzard lose on here?
They loose faith. And thats the most important thing they can loose.
Read my first post.
My point is not whether this deserves the 0 or not, you can absolutely feel that way. But it will be considered review bombing because you sre literally part of the same group that is doing the same thing, whether legit or not. You are not being an individual with an opinion, you are becoming a statistic.
You aren’t making yourself heard by going along with the group.
Like if I ask you legit-if 100,000 people paraded in your streets about climate change, would you change your views at all? Would it change anyone you know? Probably not because you were already aware and have a strong self-informed opinion on climate change. Climate change protests are not effective for actual change. Neither is review bombing. It is merely collective expression of opinion.
And what gamer isn’t aware of Blizzard being controversial?
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Then do the sensible thing and say what you don’t like with the game. Review-bombing is not review, it’s people feeling hurt and having the puerile impulse to “hurt back” so they feel better. They did not think about the good and the bad, they threw a tantrum and went for the lowest possible score.
“This game fails at everything” is supremely unhelpful. Anyone playing the game and enjoying it to any degree will ignore it. The game does not fail at re-creating the campaign with HD graphics, for example.
What “lesson” is the developper going to take from thousands of zeros? None, because it will not include constructive or even coherent thoughts.
A game at 6/10 has problems. A game at 4/10 probably has some unusual kind paf problem. A game <1/10 has simply pissed some vocal corner of the Internet.
If you want to send a message, put 3/10. 0/10 says more about the reviewer than the game, much less the company.
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Anyone playing the game and enjoying it to any degree will ignore it.
Anyone enjoying this game does enjoy it for the original game, they do not the remaster, thus you can not rate this game for what was there in the original, especially not if the original existed for 2 decades and now is gone with this “remaster”.
Then do the sensible thing and say what you don’t like with the game.
You really want me to post the endless list of things wrong with this here again? At this point i guess you allready read it.
A game <1/10 has simply pissed some vocal corner of the Internet.
No, a game <1/10 is a game which did nothing right. This remaster has done nothing right.
(btw the new blizz forums are hillarious.)
This is a tricky thing - “review bombing.” On the one hand, indeed, when people massively set the game to zeros, it looks like an unreasonable hate. But in this case, it is not so simple. This is not the first, not the second or even the tenth game, which was massively set to zeros. There was Fallout 76. There was No Men Sky at the start. Andromeda. Mass Effect 3, because of the endings. I am sure many will recall more examples. And what happened to their rating? Yes, the rating has seriously fallen. But not to 0.5. Not even close. Despite the fact that people tried very hard to bring down the rating. This is an unprecedented case.
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I don’t think people are metabombing out of sheer, “Ohhhh let’s gang up on Blizzard.” I think people have such extreme disappointment due to the wait, the over hype, and seriously because they wanted what was “mentioned” maybe not promised.
This is the first time Blizzard has been blasted due to “polish.” You might not like Diablo3 or Retail WOW, but they were definitely polished. For WC3:Reforged, Blizzard put a game out that was full of bugs, removed functionality, and more. As you can probably guess, Blizzard could do absolutely nothing about it due to it is their Intellectual Property after all. When Activision bought Blizzard, they had stakeholders external and internal to appease. I’m sure Project Managers were forced out of their seats and replaced with new ones, due to repeated dates not being hit for release. I’m sure budget was a thing and due to the well dried up, it was hard for Activision to fork out more money on a game that has already been made once.
Let me put it this way. Technical debt in the development community has always been there. There has been redone software for ages, but making a salesperson understand that an older game will need to be worked on and re-released when there was very little capitalization off of it, is a loss in their books. High operational expense is hard to justify period. It doesn’t matter if it gains new customers, the fact that the game was already made, and their only task was to re-release it with newer and better graphics, this should have been pretty easy.
I can’t speak for the removal of functionality, the removal of custom games with the words from Animes, or the fact that if you or I made a custom map, it could then used for Blizzard’s profit alone. I don’t know how strict the rules are here, but it does seem odd Blizzard would put a disclaimer due to DOTA.
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But here’s a follow up question - Of those games that got those bad reviews, how many of those companies turned towards positive change because of said reviews? What was the response?
In many ways the fans expressing no faith does not bring about positive change the way they expect. And reading the comments here, people want positive change and expect their message to bring it forth from these companies. The opposite effect is more likely.
Mass Effect 3 reviews did not make Andromeda a better game. It barely made Mass Effect 3 a better game.
But not to 0.5. Not even close.
Maybe because they did not destroy a previous game in the franchise with a new release, which they did with this remaster.
It is like fallout 76 made you loose Fallout 4.
Yes, but let’s face it.
What’s the alternative?
I despise outrage culture but frankly blizz kicked the hornets nest here and in all likelihood will not so much as acknowledge just how bad this is.
I mean they’ll just wait for it to blow over so they can make us all mad as hell again and again without any real penalties.
We as consumers have such a microscopic amount of power over the companies that keep screwing us so all we can do is complain and review bomb.
Hoping to goodness that it scares anyone that might buy this into finding a game that isn’t completely shoddy.
Well, technically they’re right. It is review bombing. The user scores are nearing .5 but the critic scores are 60-ish%. The truth is the game is somewhere below 5 on a scale of ten. Most people are playing the campaign (with some bugs) and multiplayer. It’s not an unplayable product, which means it deserves at least a few points. 1 or 2 or maybe even three. But factor in the rage of bad graphics, or blizzard letting a messy game ship, or killing off the classic communities, of forcing classic playings into this new one, of changing the EULA the score tanks because people are pissed. But lets be honest a game with a score of .5 wouldn’t even boot, ever, for anyone.
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You get the difference between classic and the remaster right? Are you able to separate the two things? Doesn’t seem like.
The truth is the game is somewhere below 5 on a scale of ten.
You keep repeating this, but can anybody tell me for what this Remaster deserves a 5/ 10 a 4/10…even a 1/10… for what? anyone?
That’s actually the one real, unquestionnable, major screwup on Blizzard’s part.
Graphics style is a matter of taste. People were led to expect more changes on the campaign, which sucks, but plans sometimes change.
However, removing the ladder overnight even for those who did not buy Reforged should never have happened. If it was necessary for some technical reason, it should have been explained weeks ago, with a target date for re-start.
The graphics update, at least as far as the campaign is concerned. I find it gorgeous, way better than the 2002 polygons. And it feels similar to the visual style of WoW Classic, which I also play.
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I’ve seen review bombing in action. I know the type of people who do it, and their reasoning. If anything, if I hadn’t already, I might purchase a copy just to spite them. There is no possible way 99% of these reviewers have played the game. Indeed, I’d go so far as to day 80% of them don’t even OWN it. At least Steam requires you to have made an actual purchase to do this. Anyone can leave a Metacritic review for any reason. The amout if times this has happened in the past makes it meaningless. Who in the hell is basing their purchase on a easily manipulated aggregate site??
Yes, I understand the difference.
And I also know that they’re not coming back no matter how hard I share my opinion.
We are not the one that decides what Blizzard will do. We all want to be, but we aren’t. All we can do is hope to influence with opinion. But let me make it clear - 0/10 reviews are not opinion, it is a vote of no confidence.
But when “reviews” are on the level of ‘we completely lose faith in your product’ then we know what Blizzard’s executive reactions are. Diablo 3 got its 2nd expansion cut and its funding pulled. Heroes of the Storm had their team gutted and Esports cut. WoW is… yeah, I think we all know the state of that game.
We’ve had 7+ years of feedback to bring about positive change. Aside from Legion and Overwatch, there has not really been much of a silver lining in Blizzard’s releases. Like I said, not the first or last time for feedback, and not the first or last time we will be let down.
Yes, but let’s face it.
What’s the alternative?
There is no alternative to being a passionate fan. You either are or you aren’t.
I mean it’s the same with being a Star Wars fan, really. You either get what you like or you don’t and you have to deal with it.
We are lucky to have good material right now like the Mandolorian. But in all honesty, for every Rogue One, we will have a Last Jedi.
The graphics update, at least as far as the campaign is concerned. I find it gorgeous, way better than the 2002 polygons. And it feels similar to WoW Classic, which I also play.
That is the first reasonable thing ive heard in here.
I can respect that.
For me that does not equalize ruining all the other things, the false advertisment, the new bugs, all those removed features, etc. (i dont need to get into this and list all the specifics all over again, if ur interested in read my last posts in the other thread, there i posted like a 50 bulletpoint list of all things wrong with this remaster).
And for my taste, the new graphics do look worse than the old ones, imo there is no underlying style anymore with them, thus i cant even rate that a positive…so there is nothing positive left in this remaster…which made me rate this 0/10.
HOW DARE YOU 
call that unreasonable or review bombing, no: it is a fair review.
1-3/10 is reasonable if you hate it but 0/10 is just review bombing to be fair.
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Such a big difference between 1 and 3 from 10?
PS: classic is broken because of reforged(i mean forced update and buttlenet issues), thats why 0.
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And for my taste, the new graphics do look worse than the old ones, imo there is no underlying style anymore with them, thus i cant even rate that a positive…so there is nothing positive left in this remaster…which made me rate this 0/10.
Which lumps you in with all the others rating 0/10 so that they can bring the score down closer to 0, rather than give a fair review based on actual opinion.
And when you’re lumped in that majority then you are a statistic.
I mean it’s the same if someone wants the campaign to play like original instead of 2018 revamp. They could express a very clear opinion of why they don’t want changes; but if they express this opinion in a thread about changing the campaign they will be labeled ‘Purist’ and their argument dismissed on that basis.
It’s how our human minds work. We ‘dehumanize’ things to make it easier for our brains to comprehend. That is why when you hear things like 10-200 people dying it’s a tragedy, but 10,000,000 deaths is a statistic.
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Honestly there shouldn’t be a scale of 0-10. It gives to big of a spectrum such does the fibonacci sequence.
It should just be “1 2 3.” By saying something is a 1-4 or 5-8, the numbers mean different to each person. The complexity goes up and people are miss sizing. By saying 1, it just means “Do Not Buy.” 2 would be “Some improvements were made, but buyers discretion.” 3 would be LOTS of improvements were made.
I think what people are trying to say is, this game gets a 1. They are warning others not to buy it until the bug fixes are made/improvements are forced in an update. To buy it, just to get a refund, is pointless at this time. Just wait… or maybe the game will not be fixed at all. It’s like buying a game and then told, there will be a DLC in the next few months due to the game is unfinished.