Exactly what is the difference between hatred and contempt, really? Looking at history, it seems to me national socialist’s of the 1930s-1940s were far more contemptuous of those they tried to exterminate than really hated them. Does that make it less appaling?
Senseless arguement is senseless…
I tried to engage in discussion and after making points the other couldn’t refute, was basically told my view is nothing because I’m a filthy, stupid north american… I’m sorry, but according to my webster’s, that’s bigotry.
Also, yes, motion sickness is a thing… ever heard of dramamine?
Ahahah are you for real? Is the large logo and War3 panel at Blizzcon not clear enough to you? It more or less says better graphics, same gameplay.
Did you put the VR set that displays it as Warcraft 4 - The 7 Races with SC2 pathing? .
My gosh what am I responding to. Guys… ive been into 1v1 in both games you try talk to me about a type you do not understand well. I play SC2 I get the better pathing but I say why it should not be like it…
The only reason why you do not see a bunch of people agreeing with me is that they do not like using forums… oh I wonder why. Neither do I. Cause it is for casual to prove their rightfullness even when they are in the wrong.
i get that why pathing is outdated, I explain why it matters for 1v1. Casuals will not play anyway I can guarantee they will think of the next 100 reasons to say what needs to be made easier and still abandon ladder that’s a type of player you either go into it with all it takes or NOT!.
I wasn’t questioning whether motion sickness is a thing, was questioning wheter he actually had it or was just saying “motion sickness” when he meant something
else.
Also you’re exagerating it a bit with the “filthy, stupid” part. He basically said you’re not as skilled as WC3 and that you get your feelings hurt easier. Still uncouth, tho.
Your view is not nothing, it just seems that we’re stuck in an endless loop of veterans/hardcore players saying “learn to play, newbs” and new/casual players saying “get with the times, gramps” (even if that’s a dramatisation of it that’s what the other side hears everytime you say something to bolster your side’s argument).
Eventually we’ll all get upset and cross the line in these circumstances. Sadly I don’t see a middle ground that makes everyone happy and I don’t think there is one to be found.
But your argument makes no sense. We are talking about WC3 exclusively here precisely because there won’t be two versions. Reforged = WC3. If Blizzard decide to change pathing (they never will, but just a thought), nobody will be able to “just play WC3”.
While I agree with the rest of your post, Agreeing to Disagree is the least adult concept there is. That’s literally telling everyone “Stay stubborn. You’re both right! Participation trophies for everyone! <3”
I’m not supporting childish bickering, but “Agreeing to Disagree” is just as immature. (And the easy way out.)
It is posts like these that make me bash the whole NA region. Pretty common on forums and the assumptions reek of stupidity. Currently away from home with own budget.
I get that it is not for 1v1 only. But… it is the one that matters most of multiplayer. It is the competitive format they want to keep. If they want to change it for Team Games im ok with it., Im defending the 1v1 format.
Do you know what a BUG means? have you done development, game design like I have? No… im sorry to break the reality of your ego-centrism some here and cause discomfort to you, Im just posting from knowledge OK?
It is engine coding or restriction not a ‘bug’
Remember that reforged has to play classic, and I too want the new models and stuff… so in 1v1 that would matter. I told you dont tell how a mode that is made for hard core be played OK? Dont make me repeat myself I won’t
I suppose it depends on how you interpret it, agreeing to disagree means you don’t have to try to convince everyone you’re right. People are entitled to their own opinion, not everything has a right and wrong answer. That doesn’t mean you can’t have a civil debate.
Because both changes don’t “break” the game.
You have had an exploit you enjoyed for years.
It should not exist in a modern reforged version of it.
If this is just a reskin as you seem to want is going to fail and be the same niche forgotten community that it is.
The only way you are going to convince me these quirks are INTENTIONALLY made feel free to point them out in the gaming manual.
Because I sure as hell can’t find any indication.
Same thing as the unit selection limitations.
These are not features. They are the result of technical limitations.
This is how clueless you are. They matter for Multiplayer. if they separate the pathing for 1v1 and team fine, otherwise, not fine. Also ill informed, says that you can play on old war3 but new war3 will match players from old war3, so whatever mechanics are done in Multiplayer apply to both
Forum code of conduct prevents me from saying how much full of it you are…
Changes to multiplayer hasn’t been decided at all, and really at this point anything with enough feedback is subject to change. Overall, after the diablo immortal fiasco they will be more keen to listen to their community. Also, on top of that, there is some pressure remaining since Blizz needs to do something right soon since the stock is reaching 40% discount from all time highs.
Not for players not exploiting old bugs.
You need to understand, the only people left over playing Warcraft are the super fans.
People who learned the game in and out. People who learned to exploit every little thing like its a frigging E Sport.
Thats not how normal people play the game. So why punish normal players with crappy controls that fight you tooth and nail to make them what you want them to do so the 12 “Pro” players who have perfected the quirks can have some air of superiority for their precious 1v1 matches.
Get over yourself.
This game will fail if it keeps pandering to people satisfied with 15 year old bugs and quirks. No one in their right mind would spend money on a broken game exploited by a minority and have them keep spending money to buy cosmetics.
It did not work for the “Age of” series and it wont work here either.
This is a binary issue. Either it is, or it isn’t. Even if you were hypothetically correct (which I personally don’t agree with,) agreeing to disagree is the same as each person invalidating the others opinion. I’m not saying you have to be convinced by someones argument, but if there is no satisfying rebuttal, you can’t really refute what the other person’s saying.
That’s different than petty disagreement simply because the other person has annoyed you, which seems to be what’s going on here. That’s why it’s childish.
Yeeeh im a pro player because I learn to use the pathing too. It’s more like (25%) of player base and no it should not change UNLESS they allow the same type of mechanics as part of micro using newer pathing mechanics. SC2 pathing is still not good for that.
it was unintended but became part of the game, not everything that turns out to be used as part of the game has to be removed.
War3 IS/was an esport…
Im for new things but that particular thing matters, if they were to add other, they’d better separate it from 1v1.
Now we’re kind of spinning off topic here but no that is not the same at all. To not accept that someone has a different opinion than yourself is what invalidates the other persons opinion.
If you provide a thesis and argue for it but the opposition refuse to be convinced despite how many premises you provide then you’re actually not debating anything, you’re preaching. In this case it is better to accept you’re not going to convince this person instead of quarrelling about who’s right and who’s wrong. Thus “agree to disagree”. This is how wars are avoided and it’s about swallowing pride, the opposite of childish.
However if this post does not convince you them I’m okey with that. We can’t agree on everything.