Yes but they fumbled every chance they were given to acquire it, and they’ve been butthurt about it ever since. This kind of pettiness more recently has been seen with their honestly disastrous esports ventures, they are mad they didn’t capitalize on it sooner and believe they are entitled to make the kinds of money with Overwatch that other esports games do because their older games (like Starcraft) along with other old greats kind of kickstarted the idea of esports, even though they frittered away or fumbled the numerous opportunities they had to make that happen.
Bunch of conspiracy theories.
Geez people …
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this is actually true, but map creatoirs get a portion of the sales value on wc3 netease client.
in general wc3 netease client is far superior and offers all the functionality we can only dream about.
they have visible unit groups, they have manabars, they got more portraits (pro players and tournament winners even got their own drawn pictures only made for them!), they got seasons, they got better replay function, they got profiles, tournaments, ladders, clans, leaderboards, they got far better server browsers for everything (you can even live observe into top ladder games from browser) , they give money to map creators, they have live observer mode, they have desktop client (like leagueoflegends), they have daily win/loose counter, they have keybinds menu, etc. etc.
here you can see proplayer foggy playing there right now with all the cool features:
(btw they have this updated wc3 client for 5 (!) years now…and netease is just blizzard china, so i cant understand why they dont have all those nasty features in western release.
sadly, to play over there you need a chinese ID passport to register your account.
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Wow, glad to see that some branch of blizzard understand the player needs. However, it is kinda frustrating that you need a 3rd party program to enhance your gameplay experience and those cool features weren’t included on the remake.
Since modders get a portion on the revenue it would be more acceptable than just lose your own projects to bliz IF the game was new and the maps were built by serious game companies, instead of indie devs that could drop it at anytime.
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Think of it this way, with all the cuts Blizzard made over the last couple years, they have decided too outsource game development too YOU, the map-maker.
A round of thanks to you comrade ThunderPope. I appreciate all updates and heads up from fellow comrades in this this Glorious People’s Republic!
I meant primarily the cut-scenes.
Because perhaps the modders could actually give us what Blizzard showcased.
Ownership. All title, ownership rights, and intellectual property rights in and to the Program and any and all copies thereof (including, but not limited to, any titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialog, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, moral rights, any related documentation, and “applets” incorporated into the Program) are owned by Blizzard Entertainment or its licensors. The Program is protected by the copyright laws of the United States, international copyright treaties, and conventions and other laws. All rights are reserved. The Program contains certain licensed materials, and Blizzard’s licensors may protect their rights in the event of any violation of this Agreement.
from my world editor version from 2018
This bothers me even more, to be honest. Who knows how long this has been here? All they did with Reforged was make it even more blatant.
I mean didn’t they just use custom maps to sell reforged anyways? its the only working part of multiplayer, hell they advertised the millions of player created maps from classic right in the reforged webpage for a very long time. They just sold the community back our own work lol with a few irksome downgrades.
Eat the rich, Blizzard and Activision are trash now.
It came up in a board meeting that they never thought to market the game idea for DOTA for themselves even after it became very evident that a very large segment of WC3 players only played for the DOTA games. Their lawyers got involved and now, we can expect nobody will ever make a custom map for WC3 again.
Yes, and it’s not a right to use (like a MIT license), but a right of ownership.
Honestly I hope nobody makes a custom map for WCIII again. I want Reforged to be as big a disaster as possible because the easiest way to send the message that Blizzard’s current business practices stink is for their cash grab to be an utter failure.
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Its a completely meaningless contractual term, because there is no consideration provided by the company to allow for the exchange of intellectual property rights.
They have already granted you license to use their map making software. This change of TOS or EULA comes from the online feature, which has no relevance to the map making. They are separate. Moreover, the continued use of a service is not good consideration to form a contract for the transfer of intellectual property rights.
In most countries you cannot transfer Authorship rights anyway.
All Blizzard has done here is pay big bucks for some uppity lawyer for a contractual term that in the majority of countries will have no effect and only serves to provide bad publicity for Blizzard.
www-law-ox-ac-uk/sites/files/oxlaw/hill_-something_for_nothing-_explaining_single-sided_contract_variations.pdf
UK law on this matter is very much similiar to its colonies - Australia / USA etc.
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Blizzard being Blizzard. No news…
Interesting thing is, you won’t find the forfeit of ownership in the South Korean EULA. Fair trade sued Blizzard and said it wasn’t ethical, the people building things for the game are mostly children not grown adults, taking the creations of children using legal force is not right.
Now in Starcraft II you can make custom games in South Korea and retain ownership.
edit: I notice Warcraft III they ninja’d it in again, guess it is time to be sued again Blizzard!
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EULA are stupid, how can it be legally binding if you have to purchase the product before you can agree to the contract? That makes no sense.
Children are being coerced into agreement with adult contracts. Both parties are not in a neutral position when the contract is formalised. If you go to a store, buy X game, go home unwrap the packaging labelled (T) for Teen and then your children are coerced into agreement of something you unwittingly didn’t know was required when you made the original contract that was exchange of money for goods. All nonsense to rob children of their creativity. I bet you mine craft does not do this.
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This makes me sad. The best times I’ve had on wc3 was when I was making towers for the custom map YouTD. I was hoping it could be ported into reforged, but I guess it won’t happen.
So, by that logic, If I do some work of art in photoshop that ends up netting me a lot of money, should all that money go to Adobe?
Blizzard didn’t lose nothing on DOTA. It wasn’t theirs in the first place.