No. It absolutely would not. What do you want me to do, fly to Irvine or wherever they are and let them know how horrible this game is? I have never felt this way about any Blizzard game. You literally didn’t play WC3 and that is fine. If you did, you would feel the same way. A lot of us here have been fans of this franchies for decades. A lot of us have a TON of epic moments in our lives from these games. This release does nothing to remind us of that. It is not the quality and passion of work that Blizzard has.
So, I’m not going to waste more money flying to Irvine to tell them that. They already have my $30. Hopefully they can bundle it all together and hire some people with actual passion for games.
There is no competitive matchmaking. There is no profile. There is no record.
WC3 classic and BattleNet is gone. There is no option to DO THIS anymore. What a joke.
They added Grid hotkeys and custom hotkeys, neither of which existed in the old version of Warcraft 3. They added team-colored health bars and changed Hero status bars to be more visually distinct. Therefore, the UI has been improved.
It’s only misleading if you choose to be misled, and attach meanings to it that were never implied.
This comes off as nitpicking and whining more than anything else. Why don’t you wait a little while to calm down before you make another post? You’d probably be a lot more convincing that way.
Dude you don’t know me you think I would shrivel because that’s what you do. You think I would swallow my pride? Please it wouldn’t fit down my throat I would tell off any of the team members behind them in front of anyone.
“No possible way to attack back” what does this even mean what would that battle even look like?
“Your game sucks, and is a rip off!” “Yeah well you smell?” They want to attack back maybe prove you can make a decent game?
You also don’t understand punch up which is funny but unsurprising considering you seem like an old codger.
That was not possible, as Warcraft 3 players and Reforged players are supposed to be able to play together. Creating systems to allow a 2002/2003 client to communicate with one developed in 2018/2019 would have been a nightmare.
Uh simple fix. Don’t make legacy players play with reforged players just implement legacy skins into reforged. This isn’t rocket science. Forcing legacy players to update, and destroy their mods. Is just garbage business, garbage design, and garbage development.
Blizzard made it perfectly clear that if you owned WC3 but didn’t want Reforged, you could play with folks who owned Reforged. That was one of the very core aspects of the game that they announced in 2018.
So now you’re saying that they shouldn’t have done that, which… would actually be false advertising.
Here’s the answer to your question about what we assumed “reforged” meant
Look at the video of the Culling trailer from Blizzcon 2018, still advertised on Playwarcraft3 dot com as of this moment advertising the finished game side by side to the new release version
Look at how Uther turns around nicely in the old version. Look at how he SPINS AROUND LIKE A TOP in the new version.
It’s worse in every possible metric. Exaggerating that you think we all wanted “Arthas vs Illidan treatment” is wrong. We just wanted the work they already have shown us to be in the game, not cut out and replaced by spinning tops. The entire campaign, and overall game, is far less quality than was promised.
Funny how it wasn’t so difficult for them to make it work with Starcraft which was an even older game, but suddenly there’s a dozen excuses for Warcraft 3.
Also you don’t know what would be difficult or not to do without actually seeing what source code Blizzard was working with.
Especially considering they kept the 2002 client updated up into modern years.
Uh no my point went over your head. Yeah they made a bad promise oh well just say “sorry we cannot deliver on this promise without foundationally changing the legacy game so we won’t be delivering this feature.” Then offer refunds for pre-orders or just don’t make promises you can’t handle. Easy zzzzzz
Ha man I have been reading threw this thread and I completely agree with you… these forums are full of a bunch of babies. Yes there are things that are unfinished and need to be worked on more. But this forum and this thread in particular is full of a bunch of no bodies that have no idea what the classic games team does everyday and they all need to calm down.
I recommend people like me and you should just ignore all the yelling and make thoughtful threads about the game, because that is what forums are about and just report all the idiots that want to use a forum to bash a game without supplying any kind of productive criticism. I tip my hat to you for standing by what they have done right, instead of looking only at their wrongs.
They advertised Warcraft 3 with new graphics, I expected Warcraft 3 with new graphics, and I got Warcraft 3 with new graphics. Considering that several missions had their designs improved upon in their new versions (Like the Fall of Silvermoon, for one example) and that the models/textures are a massive step up from 2002, I still feel that I got my money’s worth.
I never cared much about the quality of the cutscenes in the first place, because I enjoyed the characters and plot even in 2002, when the cutscenes were also just spinning tops.
I don’t know why they discarded the Culling cutscene from Blizzcon and replaced it, and you’re welcome to try and get answers from Blizzard regarding that, but I find it difficult to understand why it warrants this level of outrage from people; again, I expected Warcraft 3 with improved graphics, and I got Warcraft 3 with improved graphics. That’s also what’s advertised on the website: Warcraft 3 with new graphics and various improvements/tweaks.
New foreign dubs which are inferior and compulsory, cannot be changed back
Cut story content
Arthas vs Illidan cutscene looks like a cheap youtube SFM
Menu is awful and unfinished with chat clipping
Old client is gone even if you don’t own reforged
Custom maps now have a report button so blizzard can ban maps like revenge of the [REDACTED], anime arena and caterparty (the creator of which was already banned)
And to top it off, it seems as if the Lead Designer is on massive damage control on twitter.
Keybinds non existant in replays
microtstuttering in multiplayer, even on high end machines
AMD users cant play the game at all
campaign does not work in classic graphics, it auto defeats you on certain mission
random disconects, high ping, servers stability is awfull
no leaver penalty
30FPS animations in a uncapped FPS game
no new UI which was advertised
no new content and cutscenes which were advertised
outsourced development to Malaysian Studio, game isnt even made by Blizzard:(X__https://www.facebook.com/lemonskystudios/photos/pb.200829113272354.-2207520000…/2903819309639974/?type=3&theater)
and theyre trying to hide this information:
X___https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/ady9zy/pete_stilwell_hiding_forum_posts_about_malaysian/
God, and there are still people who defend Blizzard.
They just screwed up everyone we trust and bought the promise of the reforged, I feel furious.
Friend and now what is it done ?? if they are cheating us in the nose and nobody does anything …
You are not missing much, just you know… the game? Like working campaign, custom games, stable servers, all visual configs for everyone like shadows, status from classic wc3 accounts, the UI that was superior to this reforged UI… etc. I’d say you are not missing much.
Remember all the projects Blizzard have cancelled to ensure great quality games?
Well, they have changed their minds about this, for now.
This is what happens when suits want to save money. You know those guys who look at the numbers, sit in meetings all day, who have no real insight in our world, or simply doesn’t care because they only want more and more profit every year, get paid insane amounts of money and bonuses.
So how to cut costs now? Outsource important projects to a company in a different country.
Lol they surely don’t need the money, just make it out of their hearts and kindness. And they don’t even allow refunds now. Too much for a heart or kindness. I don’t even wanna jump in this conversation, but reading riptor’s comments is just too much