Can someone explain what Blizzard did wrong?

I would agree a buggy launch is not fun… although I can’t say I’ve ever played an online game that didn’t have a rocky launch.

I think it’s fair to say they didn’t finish some things… I look at the Lich model, it doesn’t look good… the icon art has blue glowing effects coming out of his eyes and mouth. They apparently didn’t find the time to add that to the actual model.

Stuff like that does bother me. People go to far though…

I don’t see a “garbage” game, I see an unfinished game with a rushed release. I hope they just fix some of this with some quick patches.

Some hard shilling right there chief

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It goes way beyond a model or two.

Whatever man… I appreciate the work that goes into things. In my experience only children jump to extremes and do this absolutelist black or white, it’s either all trash or absolutely perfect.

There’s nuance to everything. There are things about Reforged I think are awesome, other things not so much. Doesn’t mean people need to jump around acting like chimps.

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they literally removed features from an 18 year old game and it’s clear they did not show this game the respect it deserves. they deserve to feel ashamed for this product.

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You said it yourself, “the work that goes into things”
THERE OBVIOUSLY WAS A LACK OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THINGS.

The unit models, animation, SpellFX and stuff all went to a chinese 3rd party company.
The “WORK” that blizz did themselves was what is complained about the most
Menu lag
Crashes
Desyncs
Bricking the old game
Bugs Bugs Bugs
Problems from the old game

On top of lacking textures.

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And if you paid attention to news surrounding the game after the reveal you’d know that, due to divisive feedback from fans and their own internal discussions, they chose to scale everything back and keep the game as close to the original as possible.

They also elected not to change the story or the maps to bring them into sync with WoW canon. These were decisions made during development, that were announced in interviews and the like.

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That’s not good. I won’t defend that… I think that’s fair to be upset about that.

Outraged and claim the game is dead forever? That’s a bit silly. Don’t people realize these things will just be added back into the game. Obviously?

I guess my overall confusion is that Warcraft III was basically a dead game. The game died a long time ago. Maybe this is my inner “shill” coming out, but taking a step back for a second, they didn’t have to do any of this for us… they have more than enough money to say “nah that would be a waste of our time”. But they did it anyway… and now they’re just getting completely crapped on for it.

Puts me in the minority I guess. There’s something about someone doing something for someone, and that person just complaining, that really bugs me. And I don’t think people will really quite understand it until it happens to them.

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One of the major things they did wrong was they forced all WC3 players who did not even buy Reforged, to download a 25gb patch to upgrade their client. This 25gb patch actually removed a lot of features such as LAN, custom campaign, win/loss stats, arranged teams, etc.

They should have just let classic players stay on ROC/TFT as separate clients and not jumble them up into this mess.

Here is me playing the game for the first time and reacting to it:

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One of the major things they did wrong was they forced all WC3 players who did not even buy Reforged, to download a 25gb patch to upgrade their client.

I’m sorry I’ll agree there are issues with the launch, but complaining about a 25gb download for a game released in 2020 is just ridiculous to me. That’s kind of a dumb thing for anyone to complain about.

Dude you’re arguing with a bot, or a paid actor at best.
I know it’s infuriating when people ignore blatant facts and evidence, but calm a bit, don’t work yourself up over a bot.

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What he also fails to mention is the fact that the patch is required in order to allow Reforged and Classic players to game with each other.

lol you’re not understanding. The original game came out in 2002. Anyone who owns that version, is forced to download a 25gb patch to play the new version. Just 2 days ago they could play the regular game just fine, but then they’re forced to upgrade into this mess and a lot of features that were already existing were removed in the process

I’m a bot? God damn… that’s news to me.

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lmao it was not dead and they’re not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts they’re getting paid for this barebones outsourced featureless trash.

I’m sorry I stayed out of this conversation for too long because I know you’re not listening to anyone, but did you seriously just say that complaining about a 25gb download is a dumb thing to complain about?
Even though these people shouldn’t have needed to download this patch? Even though not everyone lives in a first world country where internet is cheap and easily accessible? Even the guys who didn’t buy reforged who were still forced to download this?

Ok it’s clear to me, you aren’t a bot, or a bootlicking shill or a paid actor.
You’re just .

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You understand your’e talking about a billion dollar mega corporation… they don’t “need” that money. The money they’re going to make from Reforged won’t even register on their radars.

To assume there’s some sneaky financial motivation to risk taking what is clearly a hit on their reputation, to make the equivalent of what would be to you, about $5, is a silly argument…

Sorry I don’t subscribe to the “all companies are just evil” narrative. It’s low hanging fruit. There’s a lot of talented, passionate people who work on this stuff, that are reading some of this hate and probably feeling like crap. it’s not a good feeling, and I imagine a lot of whatever happened, is not their fault…

People don’t stop to think about that.

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no, what’s a silly argument is to think that they would make this crap if it didn’t make them a sizable and worthwhile chunk of money. they don’t “need” a lot of their money, what the hell kind of statement even is this? the entire point of a business is to make as much money as possible and when you can churn out this turd outsourcing it to people on the dime while charging 40$ for it that’s some easy nostalgia bucks. and no one said anything about companies being “evil.” there is no such thing as an evil company, only people can be evil so stop trying to white knight them. I’m not pro or anti business but I am pro consumer and this is a pathetic attempt at a “reforge”. It is both disrespectful towards the consumer and disrespectful to the game itself and when met with an unsatisfactory product consumers have a right to complain even if it hurts the dev’s precious feelings

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That’s your opinion, and your opinion is relative to your experience.

I’ve been playing games like this for decades. I remember a time when it was normal to pay $60 for a game that would last a week, if that… a game with a crappy midi soundtrack full of boops and beeps and characters with 6 pixels.

The things people complain about today amaze me, relatively speaking.

It’s a cultural problem that’s only going to get worse. The better things get, the worse things get. Only big brains will understand that. The rest of you can keep acting like emotional chimps, outraged over your precious consumer rights.

lol… consumer rights. Oh man I DO NOT look forward to the future if this is how people are going to react to things like this. It’s one thing to be upset, it’s another thing entirely to see adults rolling around on the floor throwing tantrums.

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