Munchmallow shoulders pads.
Now you know the truth,can you handle it ?
X_https://i.imgur.com/7rcBc3t.jpg
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Now I prefer them this way.
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Yea blizzard made a wise choise. Lets never mention those munchnallows, just always defend munchmallows cause they are good for visibility, and accent that the only disatvantage of that Reforged footman is SWORD (which by the way sux starting from art to proportions , but its meanfull disctraction from bigger problems)
I must go guys and make omelette for lunch, goodnight to you and good afternoon everyone at Irvine,California
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But that’s a Footman, not Uther. You were talking about Uther in your previous post.
I don’t think this counts for the campaign. The Reforged campaign is going to be Reforged-exclusive anyway, so why make it backwards-compatible? For example, how do you think the city walls of Stratholme would turn back to SD version? There are no walls like that in it.
Though, on the hand, they could just be hugely rescaled for the campaign. And if we get those for the custom maps, they would have to translate somehow to SD version, so there is that…
But about the tileset: I don’t think that’s a problem. I believe they could add new tilesets, not just replace the Sunken Ruins tileset (that wouldn’t even any make sense, since there are a lot of other uses for the Sunken Ruins tileset too).
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True. But what they did with uther is they used thin based body like first guy from pictures,put a bit muscles from second guy and they also failed with armor proportions.
Heres example what they failed with a ballerina Uther
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Those ruins large bricks and small bricks must be remastered like original.
You are speaking agaisnt most epic tileset that makes wc3 super awesome.
ITS A MUST!
I dont mind if they add more tiles if they keep remastering some specific original tiles that gives a special charm to wc3.
Now i must make a list where reforged must not fail
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…No?
https://i.imgur.com/fGpwmCK.jpg
You can tell from the arms, shoulder span, and width of his waist that Uther’s still a big dude. Not the same mass as Arthas sure, but he’s also an older dude at this point. 64 according to the Warcraft 3 manual.
Only thing about his armour for me is that I’d like to see the belt/girdle just a bit smaller and the winged pauldron tucked in a little closer onto his body. It juts out pretty far to the side. He’s still got huge stompy boots but they aren’t as goofy looking as something like, say, this old art piece for Warcraft 3.
https://i.imgur.com/wFUpPnl.jpg
Look’s like he’s wearing a small stack of tires.
That’s a fan model VS the Reforged one, so it’s not a fair comparison.
https://i.imgur.com/Q3gENlp.png
Maybe you wanted to link this instead?
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Original Wc3 paladins and Uther are same models,just recolored.
So this is the part where inovation and creative work should take place and its highly desired. Those are not the only units that are repeatative in old wc3, same things repeat with some tilesets.
So it was better you showed blizz wc3 assets for sc2,like this 
Its a point you can look at blizzard wc3-sc2model and look at it as some kind of basic start point and start being creative and inovative.
This is how for gray-haired paladin you can end up with this using creativity
Same happens with Uther, and i dont know why you avoid and ignore community models int his case.
This is how you reforged wc3 dude, you are trying to be loyal for example default paladin should look like that wc3-sc2 one, but in some cases you find spots where you can go creative and innovative.
We passed this stage while modding wc3, trust me this opinion comes from lot of discussion in a small group of people who devoted their part of life to wc3,it comes from all good and bad moments including “fights” how some models should look alike.
Uther must be more royal than others and hes campaign character, and you can go Reforged or community alike model (Reforged one and community are actually pretty much similar its just Reforged failed with proportions).
And for other paladins you can be innovative too.
On the other hand on models like creep JungleBeast you cant do “Paladin/Uther tricks”. Its where you stay very loyal to original source in a high polly manner ofc…
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So like how Uther, over the years, has gone from a standard paladin model just with more gold and details on him (his belt, poleyns, and cloak were actually ever so slightly different) to this being his most recognized image?
https://i.imgur.com/wF5uTp5.jpg - From Heroes of the Storm. Super squished and stout proportions because that’s the style of that game (especially for the meatier characters) with a lot of detailing.
https://i.imgur.com/8puxOiu.jpg - The HOTS model for fairness’ sake.
https://i.imgur.com/2JlyyNQ.jpg - From Hearthstone. A cleaner overall look with less visual noise, more white and kind of pious.
https://i.imgur.com/JDUfXXN.jpg - Hell this one is from 2004 and Samwise himself again. These aren’t showing more innovation and creativity?
Like that Starcraft 2 model is faithful, but kind of to a fault? It looks like Jeff Bridges skipped leg day and then took up cosplay but only had plasticine on hand to make the armour.
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I think they did a fantastic job with the HD Assets; in the assets the respect for the original model and the capacity for innovation in some aspects go hand in hand.
Clearly they have chosen a completely different style for Reforged (I think neither better nor worse until we see the final result)…
PD: (TrollLord do you know where I can find images of all the assets without having Starcraft 2? I have seen many images but not all the models and I would like it)
Regarding Uther’s model, there is something that “bothers me”:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/EW6SQM44M5BP1393956642840.jpg
They have not respected the lions on the boots and the belt, nor understand why the hammer has to have some luminous runes and that strange “yellow square”. To be honest, I’ve never understood why he has a shoulder pad with wings that resembles a kind of eagle… What does that have to do with Humans or Paladins?. In Warcraft III the hammer was completely golden, yes, they can innovate from there but in my opinion the problem is that the model seems too much to the Heroes of the Storm model.
https://assets.tentonhammer.com/guides/attached_images/000/010/932/medium/Uther_0.jpg?1468381122
Recall the appearance of a Samwise’s Paladin:
http://pic.baike.soso.com/ugc/baikepic2/992/20180516101813-1356127914_jpeg_1920_1440_616574.jpg/0
Reforged Paladin:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/template_resource/EUTZWNOD1Z5Y1541005859542.png
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He ends up like this cause wc3 developers made all paladins/uther SAME models (just recolored) .
So this is part where creativity and innovative things took place in warcraft franchise and they are welcomed, cause old developers didnt quite devote attention in this matter enough.
Blizzard wc3-Sc2 model is 100% faitfull to original paladin.
And if you talk about gray paladin community model its awesome.
Can you imagine middle age gray haired very strong Viking warrior and how his facial (accent on this)would look in this case ?
About Jeff Bridges he is awesome, but that reference is pretty meanfull hes not strong guy at all.
I am 100% sure you are not very benevolent person for this project of reforging wc3, cause you intentionally ignore and avoid some clear and obvious facts and primaliry wanna argue with me isntead of think wisely and start thinking for the good of the project as wc3 fan.
You have a lack of inovation, ideas and you are sticking only to what officials serves to you and then you defend it by any cost no metter how bad it is.
At this point i can surely tell that you are art-blind m8 and its totaly pointless to argue with you. You are not good at this, you just liking quoting sentences and type alot on forums on every thread, thats all you are good at .
Things i wrote is something nonone can teach you, so it is better not blame yourself and confront with me.
Your last post is just a bla bla reply thing probably just a goal to reply and not agree with obvious things.
So i must ignore you dude,i am sorry you didnt reach my level of perception of art for wc3
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So, again. Like how they’ve been portraying Uther across the Warcraft IP/series/franchise since 2004?
Yes, and? It looks fine but with the announcement of Reforged I think I prefer the new stuff that, with a modern day release, matches the modern Warcraft aesthetic.
Something we can both agree on with each other since you’re going for me personally:
Rather than just talking out your point of view or what’s being shown in the thread instead of whatever it is you’re doing. Which is talking down to me personally just for sharing my perspective as well as also linking reference images. Official art and models that show why Reforged Uther looks the way he does.
Also I found your problem too. You want to argue, rather than debate or just talk about things.
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Imo reforged uther is allmost perfect… (evolution of design that u were talking xD ) Just tweak proportions of his shoulderpads a bit and thats it…
The assets we have seen of default paladin on the other hand… Looks like WOTLK human palading from nothrend…
M8 leave art discussion immidiately not because someone is authoritized to forbidd it, it is because your perception of art is just bad, its my honest advice.
From that point any further discussion is pointless, and next time when you wanna talking about art try use “my personal taste”. Ok?
Try some other things
And about that paladin of Reforged : Delete whole model with his USA marines alike hair and leave only his face and mustaches.Thats my advice
You re free to flag or something ,but dont you dare to reply or quote me ever again. I will not waste my energy on you dude
Bye bye
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At least I can perceive it and address other sources, rather than ignoring official stuff being shared that demonstrates why Uther looks the way he does in Reforged (hint: it’s those innovations you’re so craving) in terms of his design elements (proportions and the distribution of them aside) and instead just posting fanmade models and going “BE MORE LIKE THIS”.
You mean like how I constantly post using the key word ‘I’? Or phrases like ‘I think’/‘in my opinion’/‘personally’, etc.? Except you’re so upset that someone doesn’t agree with you that being that worked up makes it difficult to read, apparently.
Oddly out of all of your posts, this happens to take the cake for least constructive feedback ever. No pointing out what you dislike or would change (aside from the hair I guess?) but just ‘scrap it’.
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I showed uther not to admire to his art i showed it cause his proportions are far better than Reforged.
Now leave me alone this is harrasment.
You got a bad taste for art which automatically disqualify you for any further discussion with me
I SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO YOU,this discussion is over
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I wasn’t showing it to be admired either. I was showing it to demonstrate why 2004-and-on Uther the Lightbringer is ‘innovative and creative’. Which is what you’re clamouring for while somehow simultaneously ignoring all the new additions to Uther’s design since the release of Reign of Chaos in 2002.
It’s a subject that came up just after we were talking about his body’s proportions and sizing.
Responding to you on a public forum is harassment? But this belittling stuff you’re trying to pull on me -
Isn’t harassment? Like, fantastic try there but I wouldn’t try and pull that card on me when it definitely applies to you too.
Oh no I’m disqualified from talking about a subjective thing where you can’t account for 100% of people and their tastes.
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This is harrasment on public forums in front of everyone.
I will not mention you anywhere or reply to you, so no provocative things from me ok. Please stop stalking me man i got 69 post and you are 936 posts.
Leave me alone and do not reply me, i dont wanna talk with you.
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April 17th now.
13 days til May still no hints at anything…
*Edit
Before I catch any hate saying Im rushing them listen…
Im asking for a crappy photo from Petes phone of any dev stage image of the game. He can literally pop his phone take a pic of anything Reforged related and post it without captions.
Literally I am asking for anything at this point.
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