BW actually added additional colors such as green to the 8 SC vanilla shipped with.
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CognacLover, do you notice you are one of the only ones blatantly saying ‘DONT REMOVE ANYTHING’ - which you have said multiple times now between important and USEFUL posts, without acknowledging the countless problems this is causing? we are aware you enjoy the new colours, but you clearly don’t play any type of melee 2vs2, 3vs3 or 4vs4 games, because if you did, you would understand the frustration here.
This game has been perfectly fine in terms of colours for 20+ years, and all of a sudden (with a small community), we are drastically going to change the way the game plays? and yes, this drastically changes the way the game plays. You cannot tell your enemy from your teammates, it’s that simple. There is no dancing around it. The addition of a few DISTINCT colours (green and magenta for example) to the existing 8 colours would have worked perfect and not caused any issues. As multiple people have said, with max of 8 players in a game, there is no reason to have a selection of 22 colours.
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First of all, SC engine had more than 8 colors when it was released 20+ years ago. And 2nd I’m not definitely single one poster here who’s against removing options, read above and stop lying for no purpose.
You’re correct, I don’t play 2x2, 3x3 and 4x4, rarely BGH or Fastest but even if I played them I wouldn’t suggest removing anything. I’m already aware what you talking about because I know those colors existed (on UMS maps) way back then.
Removing colors isn’t a fix, you’re getting rid from what SC engine had back then (they removed extended colors somewhere between PTR and remastered patch aroudn 2017). What problem do you have if they will make a toogleable option? That’s just simple fix which will make pleased me and others who enjoyed new colors and team melee players. Stop being so aggressive, only thing I hear you yelling REMOVE, ungrateful because extended colors were a priority all long and egoistical just because you play team melee. If you disagree with toogleable option and continue telling REMOVE then I don’t even know what to say…
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cognaclover, like I said, you ignored all the valid points and spat your one liner of ‘DONT REMOVE ANYTHING’. this is not a matter of opinion, its a matter of how it effects the game, which it does heavily. arguing with you about something that is a matter of FACT, and not OPINION, isn’t worth my time.
im fully aware these colours were in the game prior, I play a lot of ums as well, but if you read at my original post, you will see that I gave THREE (3) great options as to how to incorporate this into melee that actually makes sense, including an option to enable/disable the extended colours.
this has nothing to do with being ungrateful. nobody is ungrateful. we have a dedicated team that is still trying to improve a 20 year old game. why would anyone be ungrateful? just because I pointed out your post, doesnt mean i was being ‘aggressive’. this is a forum, get used to it. you are getting all angry for absolutely no reason. I just raised a valid point that you aren’t seeing the real point here. this is effecting the game, simple as that.
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I don’t understand why you still continuing to rinse and repeat the same thing because I was voting for that option you raised all posts = getting a toggleable option without actually removing the colors. Sorry if sounded too harsh. Some posters here wrote to remove all colors and have leave only 8 that’s why I wrote with CAPS. What I was trying to say was basically same, I was trying to get a compromise so we all can agree. You guys get your default colors without we 1x1 players suffering from removal. Peace.
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Watching activision try to honestly and sincerely improve a game makes me laugh. Activision is a company that bought out Blizzards name to pump out half made video games at full retail cost. their incompetence is only exceeded by their greed. Think before you patch activision. Broodwar has done well before you patched anything, leave the game alone before you patch it so much the real Broodwar players leave and are replaced by your ADHD destiny players. P.S. Thanks for lying about the arena in D3, that’s proof you guys only care about money. Activision Dev’s listen to the players more than any other game devs, which is bad. A few smart people make 1 great game over time, not thousands of children crying that other races are OP when they lack the understanding of the games fundamentals.
I think we need a vote with a decent number of participant about new colours.
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Patch 1.23.1’s “select race” and “extended color palette” features are both atrocious. Here’s how you can fix them.
- Instead of forcing people to “select race” before a game can start, go back to “Random” as the default and give the race selection dropdown an animation (reflection/shimmer?) to draw the player’s attention to it until first clicked.
The problem with the new system is that now every game is delayed an extra 30 or 40 seconds before it can start while the host tries to get everyone to select a race and inevitably there is at least one player who just isn’t paying attention. Very frustrating…
- Revert the extended color palette feature. Adding color selection is fine. Nothing wrong with that but adding more colors is a bad idea.
There are two major problems with the extended color palette:
a) Many of the new colors blend into the background making the minimap less useful. One is the exact same color as minerals for god’s sake…
b) Many of the new colors have multiword names which makes trying to communicate quickly which player you’re talking about harder. Doubly so since people don’t have the names of the new colors memorized.
These two new features are beyond bad. I, for one, won’t be playing any more Brood War until they’ve been fixed. I hope my suggestions above can help speed that process along.
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I really want to praise you guys for a patch but I can’t on this one. This colour patch has made team games unplayable when certain colours are picked. Example: black can hardly be seen on the mini map, especially when fog of war is present. Cyan blends in with the minerals and gas on the mini map, there’s 2 yellows almost exactly the same?? I had a game with 2 yellow terrans in my game, one on my team, one opposing. I couldn’t tell them apart. I used shift tab to turn team colours on, the enemy Terran appeared red on my mini map but was yellow in my game. I hate to say it but are you guys serious? These patches are sometimes detrimental to the game, do you even review the colours before going ahead with the patch ? Completely amateur, also what’s the word on team matchmaking? I heard in early 2018 it was supposed to be out by the end of 2018, then it was pushed back to sometime in 2019, now it’s just not talked about? I don’t get it
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Thanks for update
SC return to life in recent years
Hope the same for WC3
Please maintain match making better and faster
Also black color is hard to see, i think there is place to be better black in game maybe brighter or gray
At all black and maybe some other colors are hard to notice and see
Thanks developers
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Any chance for a remastered/reforged version of starcraft 01? Or is this something I just think I want but don’t type of deal?
Lime and yellow look the same, same with tan and brown. Colors are OK but they need to be distinguishable.
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I’d love for these color picking options to be in singleplayer.
as for comments on more then 8 colors randomly in broodwars, i’d like to point out there still only 8 choices, it just depended if it was a BW map or not (desert, ice, shakuras, ect) and if it was it swaped out two of the colors for another easier to see color on those maps, for example on a normal map, you can randomly be brown, but on a BW map, it would change brown to dark green. maybe if you do decide to adjust the color palettes, do a similiar thing such as that.
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If they’re removed they need to be REPLACED with another color, I’m not in favor of reducing content
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Blizzard, any chance that you could work on fixing the game affecting bugs like the pylon search bug that was discovered?
I appreciate the colors thing, but I think there may be more pressing matters.
Thanks Blizzard for the color selection patch. We have been waiting long time for it.
Here are some suggestions:
Colors could be fine-tuned, no need to remove them, just adjust them to be more distinguishable, like this:
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Yellow and Lime are TOO similar. Lime could be #80ff00 and yellow #ffff00, both are perfectly distinguishable from each other.
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Pale yellow may look similar to normal yellow in some circunstances, maybe pale yellow can be more like amber/gold (#ffd000)?
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Blue and Navy are similar too. Maybe you can change Navy to other color, like Azure, (#0080ff), that is easier to disinguish from blue. I remember having played some map with this color. Terrans look GREAT in Azure!
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Bluish grey and grey: They look almost exactly like each other. I don’t know what to suggest. Maybe other members can suggest other colors?
Thanks again Blizzard for this patch, as I said, it just needs to be refined.
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There are some issues with the mini map not showing buildings of players that left when said buildings are not under fog of war.
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Hey you, I’m talking to you all new color haters, you delusional sheep who think majority of SC players are FFA, BGH, Fastest players - seriously? 1 VS 1 players are who kept/keeping this thing alive and as a ladder grinder and 1 VS 1 practicer I’m in love with black (because it looks badass) and cyan (because it’s shiny) colors. Stop whining and get adjusted. Lobby option seems OK’ish fix.
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What??? thank you !!! this is so nice thanks !!! : LOVE
simply remove colors
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