That’s nuts, such a joke
@cydra ?
anyone know how to ping mods here? @moderators
Pray with me.
If you guys look at the last post dates for the “former” moderators of this sub you’ll likely come to the same conclusion I have. No one works here anymore.
Unfortunately there are no developers on SCR. That last of them left in late 2020.
There are no dedicated community managers for SCR either, in fact there never were with SCR. (The developers used to communicate directly with the community.) Cydra and PezRadar are general CM’s for the Diablo franchise. Their only function here is to post info when there is any. They don’t have anything to do with decision making.
As aside note, moderators have nothing to do with the games. They are simply the rules enforcers for the forums.
We’d just hope by contacting a single Blizzard employee that we would be able to have our message forwarded to someone who can help. All we need is the map pool updated twice a year, which is tied to the ASL tournament. A new season and pool is not much to ask. This is a game we purchased that has less features than the community ran modded version of 1.16
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Does that mean Blizzard doesn’t care about the millions of people who bought the game that Blizzard has been selling since 2017 and continues to sell?
I know you cannot speak for the company, but that doesn’t sound like a good reason to waste money from our side.
Is there a reason why Bnet still functions? Do you have anyone who supports the servers at all?
It’s no different that any games, by Bliz or not, that eventually reaches their end of development. Old games are retired as new games emerge. It’s a natural process. It has nothing to do with caring.
Bliz doesn’t care any more or any less for all those who bought Warcraft 1 or Diablo 1, or other studios’ Kings Quest or Balderdash or Lode Runner, etc.
Of course. All the modern games need Battlenet, so it’s constantly being maintained.
So, as a wrap-up - to restart the ladder and replace a few maps with another few maps (that are already created) you need an RnD force to do this? The server maintenance guys are with tied hands?
Servers teams have nothing to do with the decisions on game development.
For development based decisions such as new maps, someone has to be pulled from somewhere else in the company to make decisions and give the directives to implement them. (For example, Cydra is pulled from Diablo every time a post needs to be made here.) And all of that is completely dependent on how much resources the company wants to pull from current active projects for an end of development game.
It is wrong to say SC:R is akin to WC1 or D1. This game was recently remastered and is being actively sold.
Leviathan would you please notify someone within the company letting them know we need new maps, and have mentioned what they are earlier in the thread. This type of maintenance is nothing, the community did this type of stuff for decades for free, before blizz killed private servers
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There is noone assigned to SCR, but someone must’ve created the last patch that changed how the game checks if you already have a map. I mean, it completely broke online lobbies for anyone who had amassed thousands of maps over the last two and a half decades, but someone clearly put some time into making this change.
But then there is nobody to change something as basic as the ladder maps in return. It’s a bit weird from an outsider’s perspective as to how these allocations to changes to the game work.
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So are D1 and WC1. SC1 was remastered six years ago, development ended three years ago. Whether a game is sold isn’t necessarily tied to it being in development.
MVPs are not employees. I don’t have communication lines to anyone who can make those decisions. Even if I did, the company has the final decision on what they want to do. I have no sway.
There could be staff assigned to check this forum, but I don’t know for sure. Cydra might be passing by on occasion. However, I do know that there are no devs or CMs for SCR.
I typically avoid saying “never”, but once a season rolls, it’s not likely that the maps would be changed after the fact.
what development are we talking about here, hello? To upload new maps and start a new season? To say that is game development is a joke. There has to be some kind of CMS where this is handled. This does not look like something only devs could do.
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I don’t think anyone is deluded into thinking that there is a development team actively working on SC:R, since this thread wouldn’t exist if there was. But SC:R isn’t really comparable to WC1/D1. People’s livelihoods depend on SC:R. Tournaments with prize money are still held, matches are still televised, and a very passionate community still exists.
While it’s a shame that there is no active development going on, the request to update the map pool isn’t unreasonable by any means. There must be an SOP in place that any dev at Blizzard can follow. There are no prerequisite strategic/development/design decisions to be made by Blizzard, since the maps are already picked for Blizzard by ASL. And beyond that, there’s precedence for map pool updates beyond the “late 2020” developer departure.
While Blizzard isn’t going to make millions off SC:R any time soon, there’s still value in doing the minimum work (<1 developer day every 6 months) required to show respect to and continue to earn trust from their most enduring and loyal of customers. It makes perfect sense for fans to continue to exhaust any available communication avenues until we get a response from someone who does actually represent Blizzard.
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well said dex.
there’s no development needed, just swap the ladder maps.
also are you the dex that works on cwal website? if so thanks for that.
In Bliz game development, it is the developers that make all decisions about the games, all decisions, no one else. And thus without SCR developers, there’s no one who is dedicated to making any decisions about SCR. I agree it’s not hard to change the map pool, but it’s simply a matter of if the decision is ever made.
That’s not to say that staff from other franchises can’t be pulled to decide small stuff like map pool changes (like I already pointed out above), but that’s solely dependent on how much, if any, resources the company wants to pull away from other revenue generating projects to devote to a end of development game (like I already pointed out).
I agree that anyone who knows how to copy and paste could change the map pool. Whether or not the company wants to put anything into a retired game is what determines if they do.
That’s not always an impetus to continue something that isn’t supplying enough revenue to sustain it. SC2 is far more important in people’s livelihoods and Bliz dropped it at the same time as SCR. Heroes was poised to become people’s livelihoods and it was dropped too. Diablo 3’s 2nd expansion was cancelled early on when it was decided that D3 lacks a sustainable revenue stream. The trend with SCR is pointing to less and less involvement. For example, season 11 saw the end of season rewards (which are things that require development).
I don’t disagree with you that it shouldn’t be hard to change the map pool. However, what most don’t understand is market analyses and bottom lines. No matter how easy or even cheap it would be to do anything with a discontinued product, it’s discontinued (I’m not implying SCR, just in in general).
Absolutely. But just understand that there is no one at Bliz who represents SCR. Maybe someone from another franchise will be given the go ahead to communicate and/or change the map pool, but remember if the company is indeed done with a game, like D1, D2 or WC1, they’re done with it. Not saying they wholly are with SCR, just setting reasonable expectations.
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I agree that it’s possible that even something as trivial as a having a dev update the map pool for SC:R is entirely misaligned with Blizzard’s business goals. Neither of us have info w.r.t. Blizz’s strategic vision for SC or how the company views small efforts to maintain or build legacy customer trust. We also don’t know how much money SC:R generates, so it seems difficult to make any assessment either way. Though, we do know that a year ago Blizzard somehow justified an update and we have no official news since then, so it’s also entirely possible that the message hasn’t reached the right people yet.
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MVPs are not employees. I don’t have communication lines to anyone who can make those decisions. Even if I did, the company has the final decision on what…
I’m speachless. Blizzard doesnt even pay to the people who come here and act as customer support in their forums. I’m not sure what we expect… It’s ridiculous.
P.S. Has anyone have seen an “end of maintenance” announcement for StarCraft: Remastered? Anyone have source about such statement?
Just copy the ASL map pool when that tournament starts and reset the ladder. That is all you have to do. Surely that only takes a few minutes.
When Team 1 which included the Classics Team (the team doing the SC and WC3 remasters) was eliminated in late 2020, Bliz never made an official announcement for either SCR or WC3R. Two entire playerbases were left hanging. Bliz found it appropriate to announce SC2’s end of development, but not SCR’s or WC3R’s.
We are volunteers of our own free will. We have no requirements, no quotas, no schedules, etc. We aren’t forced to work for free, just like all the the volunteers across the world.
That said, I would never disagree on Bliz’s history of terrible communication.