Zerg and Toss are easy. Terran is the real MMR rank

Title says everything if you are a main zerg or toss you’re basicaly playing the game on easy mode. If you played Terran -400 MMR easily

There’s levels to this game and I mean huge learning curve. Terran has it the hardest. Which is why there is a bell curve skewed for Zerg and Toss

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My dude this isn’t productive any more than the whiny Zergs that post the same things about Terran.

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Do you understand now how i feel about you ? I Bet you feel the Same way about wheasy.

This is why people dont Like terrans :smiley:

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You know there’s 14 times as many Zerg whiner threads and 3 times as many Protoss whine threads in the Forum right now.

You don’t like me because I force you to accept harsh truths. I never said it’s a fact we should push in people’s faces all day. But it’s absolutely moronic to deny literal facts simple because of how they make us feel.

Dont think thats true BUT the protoss whine Threads are indeed necessary. (Insert Jordan Peterson crying “its necessary” Here)

No one needs zerg or terran whine Threads right now.

But i dont Accept your Lies tho o.O

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You decided to arbitrarily deny the existence or validity of all MMRs below a certain point because it didn’t fit your narrative that Terran isn’t harder. You also flatly deny that Terran players have actually ben playing the game for longer than Protoss and Zerg counter parts.

That’s just straight up denial and delusion. That’s literally the only word for it.

Interesting that only people who play your race are valid when they complain. Please tell me more about how realistic you are.

Easy. Because everyone understands that p has a very hard time right now. Hence the outcry. Reddit in flames pros admitting its Bad and Not even memeing about p anymore. Reverse the Last 3 gsl and try to understand how you would feel. No terran in gsl but only protoss. See? You wouldnt feel nice.

You decided that looking at average is any Worth despite Not having an even Playerbase distribution between the races.

You still dont acknowledge how stupid and false it is to Look at Something where one Race has much much much much more Players than any of the Other 2 :smiley:

Interesting how you keep dodging this fact. You’re like Neo.

I’m not. It’s interesting that things are that way. But I don’t have an explanation any more than you do. You say you do, but you’ve no idea about the subjective motivations of a quarter of a million people any more than I do. And if you do? Something being popular is not indicative of ease or of difficulty whatsoever.

I have actually said since the beginning that its pretty logical. By my theory most of the people started playing t AND THEN switched to p or z (or stay t). This pretty much logically implies that terran players will have played the longest. But i dont see why this is important here? (to anticipate another dumb statement of you: there are people that are 15 who are much much much better at starcraft than you or i will ever be; to use your own words against you: “But I don’t have an explanation any more than you do”. This is true for determining what should make you better at sc2 ^^)

Thats true. But nothing more than that.

So you mean without having an explanation for the things we see you go like: yeah THIS leads exactly to THAT (average mmr for terran meaning terran is hardest).
Its correct. You dont have any more explanation of this than i do so our views are as valid as the other (if it wasnt for the itsy bitsy thing that the races arent distributed equally)

What i did was explaining to you what could be. Why we see what we see and why we shouldnt conclude t is harder than every race. But you dont care. You simply say: I dont know any of this but it means t is harder.

And this is nuts.

And thats the difference. It actually matters. If we know why terran is more popular (especially for lower level players) we have a much stronger baseline for the discussion of difficulty.

both of you ned to stop this

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I know. And i too dont want to discuss this any further. But at least its now in a thread where no one actually wants to discuss anything because the thread itself is dumb.

I still have hopes left for bourne :frowning:
Please bourne. If you read this: Im believing in you.

You brought it into this thread where I was trying to dismiss someone’s whining.

Terran pool would shrink over time, not lengthen.

People come and go and terran is for most of them the starting and eventually main race

I only Said that Hes crying Like you and you Went on with this bs.

Wheasy is the worse Version of you but you are very much alike. But Hes on ghosthydra Level.

I mean compared to the terran Population in the First months of sc2 it certainly did.

Exactly.

What he said has nothing to do with what I talk about. Facts are facts. Throwing them constantly in someone’s face is different from simply accepting them and moving on.

And your opinions on the state of the game are not suddenly valid over everyone else’s just because you decided as much.

Yes and nothing more or nothing less. Only because you use the average of Something doesnt make your Statement a fact.

Dude, you literally said that only the stats you decided were indicative of any sort discrepancy. You can’t make any further claims of being remotely rational.

I wouldn’t call any thread that puts out ridiculous suggestions “necessary”, even if the faction it is for is underperforming at the pro scene.

If the suggestions are too extreme (such as the bulk of the suggestions from WildRage’s posts not too long ago), then they simply aren’t helping. The details on these threads matter.

This thread in particular is also just a waste of space and time.

Look, the fact of the matter is that both you and Sentry lack sufficient information about the ladder to determine the exact reasons for its current composition. At best, you each only have partial explanations, and so arguing about it over and over again is a waste of time.

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What metrics do you think are missing? I think that play time (# of games played is similar) could be one.

Thats what i wanted to Tell him in my Last reply

Yeah thats true but i think its important to Show that the Playerbase is unhappy. In my eyes protoss Players rarely Act up. For example even tho protoss got nerfed the Most Last Patch despite Them already being down, we nearly only had whinethreads from terran and the whole zerg Cabal thingy started. Turns Out terran is doing very well but protoss is nearly dead…

I Just Said that we both dont know enough and therefore we cant make absolut Statements (tho the View im proposing is the Most Common View in the Community :stuck_out_tongue: )

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