These units do not need to be buffed they need to be taken out of the game. Im tired of playing against terrans in multiplayer and all they ever build is mines. if the unit is not overpowered why do they not build anything else. all it adds up to is a slow repetitive game every time. Extreme splash dmg, range, and a quicker rate of burrowing is a joke. I need to build the same thing every time to kill these off, where is the variety? vultures mines where nowhere near this stupid. you are ruining this game by having this unit in the game. they need a huge nerf or to be completely deleted from the game. when the mindset becomes im playing vs terran I need to go widow mine counter it is very repetitive and not fun anymore.
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Have you never heard about detection?
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Have you ever played broodwar and dealt with tons of mines? You dealt with it the same way there and you deal with them in sc2 the same way. Mine also was already severely nerfed, I dont think half of you realize how hard of a nerf hiding permanent stealth behind an upgrade was. Git gud, because it’s the only thing that is going to fix your problem.
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Widow mines are the least of your problems. Work on your mechanics, micro, macro, etc
Mines are easy to deal with. Get detection, any unit with over 5 range and also just split units or sent a unit or two to bait the mines.
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I use detection and have faced tons of widow mines in broodwar , starcraft brood war raised me. I went air… I can kill widow mines and have had to do research in order to do so which is ridiculous. why do I need to play against them every time I play against terrran??? bc there op end of story. they have so many great units but all ppl play is mass mines bc there op. it just makes the game play slow and unattractive for ppl. did I mention that there extremely cheap (cost wise) we all know there cheap, attack ground and air, have a fast movement speed, have splash dmg, a ridiculous burrow speed, a long range, are cloaked, have auto lockon , can be built 2 at a time from 1 training center, are not a lastly teched unit, require the opponent to slowly navigate the map, extreme attention to map navigation or you lose all your units, require no micro, have a quick reload, and ARE NOT MINES. mines need to be walked on or near to explode. If I missed anything feel free to add, I apologize for my incompetence for missing more imbalanced properties of widow mines.
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You can’t even keep your story straight, are you a troll?.
They have 5 range.
So like spider mines from BW.
Your trolling sucks. You play nothing but team games and are rage posting.
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No one is falling for this, you are so bad at this. No one goes mass widow mines and team games are not what the game is balanced around.
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He he he he - are you a Protoss or a Terran? You just entered in a Mine-Field…
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If anything we need more units like mines that punish A-move.
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Our sense of time must be severely different because the SC2 I play mines dont reload quick. Secondly they take no micro because it it a positional unit as most Terran units are. Burrow speed after upgrade, cloaked after upgrade, not long range, Splash damage, lol must be Protoss or Zerg because they have plenty of aoe options. Consider the mine the Terrans version of storm. Git gud.
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OP, learn to play against widow mines instead of expecting the game to be balanced around your incompetence.
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I played many yrs without using the Widow Mines. Now I can not agree with you. Just like the Zergs have that little bug that explodes acid all over my platoon and wipes them out, I hate those bugs :>) but I can get help with the mines. Blizzard does a good job of trying to keep a balance between the 3 races. I now depend heavily on Widow Mines and hope Blizzard will ignore your request.
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And I don’t think you realize how big a buff it was to make the build time ~35% shorter.
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Look, I’d rather have stealthed mines back than the build time. The build time was to compensate because no one was using them anymore. They still didnt even with the build time reduction. It was only when stealth was reintroduced via the upgrade is when mines were worth it again. I’d rather give up build time for permanent stealthed mines anyday.
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People used a lot of mines still he build time change even without the stealth upgrade.
And personally, if they increased the build time back and re-added baseline stealth, I would be rather disappointed especially for TvZ. In fact I’d probably switch back to protoss for a couple of weeks.
I never seen it. It was always a better choice to go tanks for your splash. Tanks lived unlike the mines that died as soon as the fight started. Secondly, even Rotterdam said on the pylon show that the mine nerf was random and no pro was asking for it. That change significantly changed TvP the most. TvZ it was never a big deal because you got the lair anyways for hydras. However, as much as anyone hates mines, you cannot deny mass gateway became a thing due to the fact that mines did not have perma stealth. Mine nerfs have always been catastrophic on Terran win rates, take the mine nerf in Hots against shields, TvP was unplayable. The mine balanced the early game vs Protoss.
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The nerf to the widow mine was literally almostngwme breaking. I know, it would be great if you could make ONLY charge zealots and just have a 100% win rate, but im sorry, sometimes you’re going to have to, you know, “play well.” Not nearly as well as the Terran does, but like SOME skill. Sorry, bro. Know that’s pretty hard.
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Your right man Terran is OP and A-move race. Siege up and hold off entire armies with a tank and just pull cheesy drops on mineral lines and out economy with mules. Blizzard should do something.
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I have beat zealots with literally 0 factory units. If you lose to pure zealot it’s because your opponent’s macro is way better than yours, plain and simple.
Also, I don’t have to play well, I just have to play mech and use cyclone/mine. Great success in TvP and TvZ so far. Granted I have only had 2 TvP since I started using mech there.
Watch in-depth episode 10. It’s basically just a whole lot of non drilling claw mines being massed in TvP over and over again.