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The difference between .5 and 1.5 is 3x, not 4x.
Jesus christ, I know you can’t read well but at least try to learn basic arithmetic before you argue with your superiors.
TIL widow mines cost 1.5 supply. I think we need one of those grade school math problems. Batzy has 100 banelings costing 50 cents each, Maru has 100 widow mines costing 200 cents each. To get to the same cost, how many banelings does batzy need to buy?
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Here’s the statement you are referencing:
Seriously, work on your reading and math skills. You are embarrassing yourself.
Widow Mines take up 2 supply. Banelings take up 0.5 supply. 2 / 0.5 = 4. In other words, you can have 4x as many Banelings as Widow Mines, assuming you allot the same supply for each.
If you have the same number of Banelings and Widow Mines, then you can calculate the difference in “available supply” by subtracting the Baneling’s supply from the Widow Mine’s supply, and multiplying by the number of Banelings/Mines. That is where the 1.5 number comes from (2-0.5 = 1.5). It is 1.5 more supply per Baneling/Mine respectively. Obviously, if you tried to use that supply for Banelings you still get 4x the number of Banelings to Widow Mines, not 3x. The formula for that is (x + 1.5x/0.5) = 4x.
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Did you not just admit that earlier in this thread that the baneling is rounded up in the supply count?
That means that if anything, the number is closer to 2x than 4x for the number of banelings you could have. But I’m going to be honest, I haven’t done this in unit tester so perhaps you are correct.
None of this matters though, because you play terran, so supply doesn’t matter to you anyways. You can never be supply blocked as terran and with the press of a button you get free supply on demand.
The UI (user-interface, i.e. the number that it displays) “may” round up 0.5. I am not certain if it does, but THAT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR ACTUAL SUPPLY COUNT!
One Baneling is always worth 0.5 supply. 7 Banelings is worth 3.5 supply, not 7 supply. I am actually shocked you are stupid enough to think supply would work that way!
At worst, you will be prevented from spawning another pair of Zerglings if you are at 199.5/200. Any rounding that the user-interface does is irrelevant to that (the cap is 200/200, not 200.5/200, and Zerglings are produced in pairs for 1-supply batches instead of individually).
Every faction except Zerg has to abide by the 200 supply limit. Only Zerg can cheese it out by starting buildings and then cancelling them, although that does waste 25% of the resources used to start the buildings.
However, Terran can sometimes lower their SCV count in favor of more army supply in the late-game if they’ve kept their Orbitals alive from a number of expansions, or if they had the leeway to make additional Orbitals. Individual Mules can provide the mineral income of about 3.5-4 SCVs, so each Orbital can “replace” about that many workers.
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ALL. Across the board, Zerg earn more trophies, money, MMR take your pick.
You have literally nothing to cry about, but you persist anyway.
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Terran are the only race that can kill all their workers and have a 200/200 ARMY, zerg and protoss have to keep ~70 supply as workers, ALWAYS. So no, zerg are not unique in having a larger army possibility. Terran have the biggest possible army size, they always have.
I see you pointed this out, but you you were being dishonest again by claiming that terran can “lower their SCV count”. They can annihilate their scv count and crush the game with superior supply.
You claimed 4x, so now who’s the stupid one? I know it seems small, but you like to call me on every tiny math error so I’m going to do the same to you. I imagine your sitting their like a fat lard stuck in your seat, pushing your glasses up and screaming at the screen “WELL ACTUALLY, IT TAKE 3 WIDOW MINES TO KILL 30 MUTAS, NOT JUST 2, YOU STUPID DUMMY!”
Enjoy incel-hood.
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Me: Proves your race wins more of literally EVERYTHING (MMR, prize money, trophies, LITERALLY anything, Zerg gets more)
You: Ignores it and continues to cry despite clearly playing the OP race
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I also gave you the math on Orbitals/Mules. Each Mule is equivalent to 3.5-4 workers on Minerals, and Orbitals cost 550 minerals each. In order to completely replace “70 supply” of workers, the Terran player needs between 17.5 and 20 Orbitals. That is assuming none of those SCVs are needed for gas, repairs, or building.
I guess someone can waste Mules on repairs, wasting the equivalent of 3.5-4 mineral workers for the equivalent repairs of a single SCV; but they can’t go without gas miners or builders.
You are failing at basic, elementary school level math. Anyone can take a look at this thread and see that.
You don’t understand the race you main. You don’t understand your own units, and you obviously don’t understand how to watch the map or control your units to any degree of efficiency.
You also don’t appear to know how to read properly because the section you quoted is not a “math mistake”. It is a simple explanation of a point that you did not understand.
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Mules don’t mine gas.
In lategame gas is extremly important. You can see even pros floating minerals, because Terran mineral-only units - marines - can do very little in late game fights. Normally people use them only for diversion drops and suicide creep clearing squads because they do too little in main army.
Furthermore, in TvZ you need energy for scans from 5-6 orbitals to not just die from Lurkers. You can see Maru, Clem and Uthermal are playing like this.
In middle-to-lategame Zerg way to deny Terran mule mining is spreading creep. After first several minutes most of OC energy goes into scans for creep clearing.
In lategame its Lurker maneuvering that forces Terran to keep scanning.
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Terran have the most wins in premiere tournaments, nice try scrub trash. At least Terranic attempts to make a logical argument.
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I literally used the 3.5 number that YOU gave me. SO, are you stupid or did you give me the wrong number?
3.5 is less than 4. That is the math mistake. I’m sorry if this is too much for your partisan brain.
Terran don’t need gas, just make marines and own the map.
Do I have to tell you all how to work your own race?
Maru needs nothing but marines to crush zerg. He is a god.
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Terran in 2022: 4/12
Zerg in 2022: 5/12
Terran in 2021: 4/21
Zerg in 2021: 8/21
Terran in 2020: 5/19
Zerg in 2020: 11/19
Terran Representation: 37%
Zerg: 25%
Lie more
liquipedia. net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
You sound tough.
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You are so utterly clueless it is breathtaking.
Here’s the ACTUAL stats for 1st and 2nd placements in all premier tournaments in the past 3 years.
2021 1st Place 2nd Place
Zerg 10 10
Toss 7 7
Terr 4 4
2020 1st Place 2nd Place
Zerg 11 5
Terr 5 5
Toss 3 9
2019 1st Place 2nd Place
Zerg 11 10
Toss 3 4
Terr 3 3
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What you wanna bet this little girl is back here whining and spouting the same tired b.s. in a few days, even though he got proven humiliatingly wrong.
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All that points out is Zerg has higher skill player.
If look at units abilities strengths of each race that means Zerg over performing.
Best mineral base units Terran
Best spell caster Terran
Best range Terran
Best scout Terran
Best anti air Terran
Can’t be supply blocked
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Blizzard should add an option to report a post for disinformation. Nobody would go pure mass void ray. That’s a gold league strategy. They would add in templar and feedback the viper or tempests and an oracle then kill the vipers from a distance. Even going pure void ray, had that protoss split 3 voids to the front to zone out the vipers he would’ve been fine. Pointing to such poor examples is just spreading misinformation about the game. Parasitic Bomb does not counter void rays in a real game scenario unless coupled with fungal, and the combination of the two is extremely difficult to make it work when the Protoss can simply feedback the infestors or vipers. You bind feedback to rapid fire and just wiggle your mouse over the zerg’s army. Add in shield batteries to heal damage done by parasitic bomb and it’s totally impractical to call PB a counter to void rays. That’s just total nonsense.
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Now do it for more than one year. Way to cherry pick the stats, what a coward.
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