Viper is the new infestor

Seriously, this spellcaster is broken AF. It shuts down entire comps far too easily and cost effectively. Abduct needs to be completely redesigned, if not removed.

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LOL

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You thought you were losing because of OP infestors, broods or hydra bane, but the truth is the failure was inside of you the whole time :slight_smile:

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And after abduct is nerfed to your standards how does zerg beat skytoss?

“Viper is the new Infestor”
Always has been.

Blizzard in HotS beta: Neural Parasite is too strong, sniping a very expensive high-health unit is OP, let’s nerf it to oblivion so nobody uses it anymore
Also Blizzard in HotS beta: you know what Zerg needs? a spellcaster that can snipe expensive high-health units, but let’s make it fly so it’s harder to kill, and allow it to regen energy super fast

Blizzard in HotS: Fungal Growth OP against clumped up air units, unavoidable damage spell should not be in the game, let’s nerf it
Blizzard in LotV beta: you know what Zerg needs? an unavoidable damage spell against air units, let’s add it to a unit that’s totally not a Better Flying Infestor

Blizzard in LotV: why nobody uses Infestors?

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Zerg won’t beat skytoss again. That’s the whole point of this thread, to get a 100% winrate.

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parasitic bomb is not a good spell if you know how to split lol

With larger air forces splitting becomes less and less of an option, but Parasitic Bomb is still a spell that players can mitigate much better than the old root Fungal.

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As broken as it is, it only needs a few light nerfs. Nothing major to take it out of the game. It’s necessary to deal with the broken crap the other two races have.

Amen

I’m kind of with you on this one, but vipers can still do stupid things like abduct a mothership.

This is not true at all. It’s a great spell. You are seriously underestimating the cost of having to split units in the heat of a battle. I believe part of the reason why pro Terrans don’t make vikings to counter vipers (though I really think they should - at least enough to 1-2 shot vipers) is because of parasitic bomb.

Exactly this. Works well against any mass medium ships. If fleet ships are clumped up too, it can be a decent spell as well as it’s harder to split apart slow units.

Actually it was nerfed earlier in wol and then they buffed it back to 9 range in lotv + gave burrow cast on top for some reason.

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That’s not stupid. Without that Protoss is unbeatable late game. Imagine Zerg fighting a carrier/void/mothership army with nothing but corruptors. It would be a slaughter.

Sure, nerf viper.
But give us eiher infested terran or root fungal back.

Viper’s are the poor man’s Defiler. Infestors are in because blizzard likes infested terrans so much.

But for some reason they didn’t want queens infesting terran command centers anymore. Which was an extremely fun mechanic, and the way you made infested terrans in SC1.

Since the massive terran whine, infestors have been castrated. You can see they gave them dark swarm from defiler. I rarely see that being used.

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Microbial Shroud isn’t Dark Swarm.

Fungal seems like half Ensnare half Plague.

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It is the most expensive unit in the game, takes the longest to make by far, and takes up the most supply. It is supposed to be the ultimate standout unit. It is meant to be the game changer of Protoss end game. What happens to it in PvZ though? It gets abducted and sniped in 2-3 shots. That’s great man /s

So? Protoss shouldn’t get free wins because they have a hero unit. Without vipers it’s the most OP unit in the game.

It’s not free wins, but it should be an advantage, not a joke. I remember back in 2018, give or take, when the joke was that you make a mothership if you want to lose the game. That’s because the Zerg could just abduct it and then neural parasite it - then you’re just fighting your own mothership. When they gave the mothership a slight buff (the slow spell), people were cracking jokes about how it was a Zerg buff. That’s why you can no longer neural parasite it.

Game’s come a long way, but for me personally, all I want to see is the abduct no longer working on the mothership (only the mothership) and a nerf or removal of the consume ability. No other spellcaster has the ability to very quickly obtain tons of energy, so why should the viper be allowed to do so?

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-400/-400. Sad face.

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