incase new players didn’t know
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“When ever I’m ahead and I want to lose, I make ultras.” - IdrA
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Ultralisks aren’t as bad as many Zerg players make them out to be, but it is still best not to make more than 1-3 of them at a time because of their size, pathing, and because they depend on the opposing army to have very few of their counters out.
If you only make 3 then their infrastructure and upgrades make them extremely expensive to field. If you’re on hive tech why not just make broods instead?
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They actually got somewhat buffed since IdrA’s age.
But in Lotv there exist many new things on the other races too…
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Well, Ultralisks are annoying and tend to force out units that the opponent does not want to make against Brood Lords. I would not recommend opening Ultralisks immediately at Hive, but it might be useful to make them after you have some Brood Lords out to wreak some havoc.
This isn’t as viable against Terran because Thors and Liberators may still be in use as Brood Lord or Infestor counters; but Protoss players will often drop Immortals and switch into splash+air against Brood Lords. Those compositions are fairly weak against Ultralisks. The opponent may also be hard-pressed to hold outlying expansions against Ultralisk+Zergling runby’s.
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Or simply 3/3 and continue with ling and banes. Outside joking, ultras can be useful in some cases
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I agree that ultras have much worse utility than any other T3 unit in the game, and I’ve seen more games thrown by ultras than any other unit.
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Ultras are great. Its just that Zerg has godlike late game units. Great is trash in that case.
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Can you name a unit that is 300minerals/200gas and worse than an ultralisk?
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Colossi?
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Tempests are a little cheaper but not by much and are far, far worse.
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Without a doubt the Thor.
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i’ve made 52 ultras this season so far.
i’ve made 3000 broodlords…
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I think I agree.
All zerg units are generally excellent and highly worthwhile and it’s gotten to the point where being above average isn’t good enough for zergs.
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Hmm… the mothership? One void ray costs 250/150 and is probably worse than an ultra.
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Mothership aint bad actually. If there’s no more detection present then the enemy has to kill the Mothership and THEN the army which matters a lot.
Only Zerg even has a tier 3
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i don’t think Ultralisks has ever been useful even in Broodwar.
200 gas is just bs for a melee unit.
They are not fast, they are bulky and they are Ground. A group of Marauders make short work of them without any problem.
Ultralisk is only best counter against Zerglings, Zealots, Marines. That’s it. Almost every other units in the game can either counter or much more beneficial to your game play than ultralisk.
Voidray and Ultralisks are the two most useless units in the current meta.
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Ultras were good in BW, paired with Dark Swarm. Theyer were also the best anti-Dark Swarm unit in ZvZ, since they are melee and very heavily armoured, when you research Chitinous Plating.