TvP is still BROKEN

Since blizzard sc2 team didnt focus on the main concern :

  • as Terran you ARE BEHIND in economy right when the game start

  • protoss proxy gate, it only delays his B2 of 10 sec, whereas as terran it can easily cost you the game

  • protoss make a DT drop build, it can kill you straight away, you have to be lucky with the reaper and scout it, if you react properly as terran your protoss opponent is still ahead and has a good shot winning the game

  • You are ALWAYS BEHIND in upgrades as terran, ALWAYS
    Someone at blizzard tells me how is that fair ?

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You are behind in upgrades proportionally to how you are behind in skill. Protoss upgrades now take significantly more time, so you have no excuse for being behind.

Fun fact, experimentation found that by the 3 minute mark, Terran has always mined more than Protoss. So far behind you’re ahead?

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No, whatever you do you are behind in upgrades, watch pro games mr low diamond

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You are definitly behind if you’re diamond because you have no idea how to macro properly and even if you are m3 on an alt account that doesn’t change.
Try to do some custom games vs. a protoss way better than you IF you find someone who wants to coach you.
But if you balance whine in diamond/masters or low gm, you definitly don’t have the right attitude to improve.
Post a replay or at least try to use the combination of 2 mech units (liberator/tank/widow mine) with your bio or ghosts.

You sound like you only play pure bio and think that you can punch a hole in a protoss death ball with that. Terran is so linear - no wonder that there are so many uncreative crybabies who fail at a match up where you have to use your brain and actually move up the tech tree to use more than 2-3 different upgrade buildings.

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LUL!

  1. I did not upgrade because i chose to yolo my 2-3 unit army all game long and was too cheap to save some mineral/gas for upgrades.
  2. Protoss used a 8-9 unit comp with 3/3/3 all while resisting my yolo-aggreesion.
  3. Then
    Best Cry Ever - YouTube
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You don’t play the game and im master 1 on EU
Find me 1 TvP game where the terran 2 2 upgrades hit faster than the protoss opponent then

tips : you won’t find it
the only case the terran can be ahead in upgrades is with the +1 attack, lol.
and the protoss put down his B3 and B4 ealier than the terran in standard macro game TvP.

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Even before the massive 15 Upgrade nerffs to protoss the time for terran to 3/3/3 was shorter than protoss 3/3/3.
Now you got an extra 3000 seconds (three thousand) advantage in upgrade timing.
You still refuse to upgrade.
Maybe Blizzy should force by defoult the building and starting of upgrades for terrans? Why is a greedy and moronic play-style (not geting upgrades) the fault of Balance?

To take responsability for one’s actions and decisions is the first thing that is teached at …kindergarten.

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m1? so? post a replay…
Who cares what mmr you are if there’s always people better than you and enough tools to analyze it? Do you want to improve or just balance whine?

And protoss has to put down b3 and b4 earlier than the terran to keep up. Does protoss or terran have mules? What kind of an argument is that?!

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This upgrade scam is taking pathetic proportions.
When people try to convince terrans to upgrade:

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TVP IS STILL BROKEN

Nope. TvP is perfectly balanced according to average PvT vs TvP rankings in Aligulac.

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I stopped reading here lmao

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In Hots Terran took their B3 before Toss… your conclusion Einstein ?

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Season Race Statistics
TvP: 5 - 18

TvT: 16 - 13 (3 of those were games with ML smurf, so its actually 16 - 10)

TvZ: 15 - 13

Why I even play this sh!t?

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In HOTS protoss had better chronoboost, better units in every aspect, terran didn’t trade as efficiently as they do these days. Also not true, protoss always had to take expand faster than terran, this is why terran always went 2B all in while protoss was going 3B defensive to hold the allins.

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-you are behind in workers, not in income because of mule and you can start the 3rd before toss, but you want to 2 base all-in dont you?
-if you proxy reaper he will also have to build zealot and have some delay
-in order to scout dt you should not try to kill 1 probe at natural every game and lose the reaper, but really scout
-you are behind in upgrades a) because you all-in until 7-8th minute with only +1 attack, while protoss make upgrades non stop b) because normaly terrans start to make armory 2 minutes after the finish 1-1, enough?

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toss always gets their upgrades before,there is no way w/e you do as terran,you cant just go for upgrades,then you fall behind on other parts
he is right,although it doesnt make it imbalanced because u get more map control,army power midgame,while toss gets an edge with timings

you people always get the upgrade part wrong… even if its 20 seconds,toss still gets an edge in upgrades,no matter what,if its standard plays vs standard play,and it allows some real strong timings,but no it is not imbalanced,but you shouldnt argueg with facts

terran will never be ahead in timings,stop being deluded and argue with this
unless you go double e bay early(you will get killed/not get enough army and get massacred either way just to hit a 3/3 timing if you lucky)which makes no sense
also it is not really a balance issue,as terran you get other benefits

Ur skill is broken, not TvP

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You are low diamond as well.Self owned much?

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