just a bump, ran into this dude so many times; throwing games
https ://imgur.com/a/J6mR6E8
Iâve been matched with some quality specimens too, lately. However, this community rules are not to enforce sanctions nor to target individuals by yourself. So you can discuss about the phenomenon in general (cf. dedicated thread), but canât post this kind of screens without anonymizing them first or if an ill-intended viewer sees thatâll enable him to report you to a moderator.
the ill intended viewer reporting me for exposing the ill intended player abusing players in rank
Yeah, absolutely. I learned it the hard way about one year ago : in these forums, if you want to denounce some kind of bad behavior, youâd better make absolutely sure your posts are 100% chart compliant, otherwise youâll get reported by the very ones you were supposed to report.
Youâll have to understand that about one user over five is a smurf, and that the more their doings are talked about, the higher the chances for the devs to take action. And so if they see the smallest infraction to the chart, theyâre likely to use it to shut the thread down. The same applies to hackers : even if themselves disrespect the code of conduct, they can still get careless usersâ complaints to be shut down using that very same code. Interesting behavior, isnât it ?
So if you want to use screens as examples, you have to blur any parts of them that could lead some angry readers to target the described individual :
There are plenty of examples on the thread I gave you, you should take a look at it, some parts are worth the read to every player.
Iâve read it, I just donât genuinely believe blizzard cares about that issue, especially now that sc2 is in maintenance mode.
Usually guys that use that portrait are hackers, bots or high level farmers.
The guy who got publicly flogged got it because he was being toxic after winning and then challenged beasty to a rematch. I think thatâs fair enough. It would be different if he publicly humiliated someone who lost to a meme build.
I mean I do this in any game I can loss bot in. When i came back to play this game for the first time in a decade and the last time i played i was a college kid with no life so yes im gonna leave 20 games before i start trying because i donât feel like getting rofl stomped for hours before i get an enjoyable game. Far as im concerned this is a feature. Plus at my age its not about being good its about having a good time i want to play in a bracket where i can just make whatever units i want and a click and have about a 50/50 shot at winning.
The chances are rather low for them to take action against this issue. But that already was before SC2 went into long-term mode. Which is why the thread also features infos and tips for us players. Glad you did read it anyway.
Freelosing isnât necessary to achieve that, just playing normally would get you at at 50/50 win chances eventually.
Or would, if there wasnât people from two leagues above who need to get a ratio closer to 100% in order to feel like men again. So youâll get rofl-stomped anyways Iâm afraid.
Yea but understand from my point of view where I care about me and not you or anyone else it doesnât really make sense for me to burn out on coming back to the game by getting stomped. Im not in my 20s anymore i donât want to watch replays or know the meta or any of that crap anymore i just want to play. So no i wont gate my fun behind hours of losses for the integrity of the game when i donât care about it at all. My point was simply that some people who do this like me are not trying to style on people. Simply put if the game remembers you as a diamond player but your apm isnât even triple digits anymore Not loss botting is in my mind just insane. At the end of the day the game measures your play ability and it doesnât really matter if I can play better or not If Iâm the kind of guy who want to fast tech to utras for no reason does it really matter if I know its not good if Iâm going to do it anyway?
Youâve got some guts to write that in a forum of SC2 addicts. However, youâre being honest, which is what most smurfs are unable to.
Youâre asking for a game which would reward you perfectly despite disrupting the way it is supposed to work. Thatâs selfish, and will only bring others to replicate that behavior, depriving you of your objective. This, in a way is also childish, because you donât care about your fun disrupting the ones of others, and assimilate victories to fun (which is a trait a lot of smurfs do share).
Well, Iâm sorry, but SC2 is all about challenge, and so itâs normal not to keep-up if you donât invest yourself into it. And since the game nor its players arenât your preoccupation, our objectives do differ.
Anyway, if youâve not played since more than 4 seasons, then you should have 5 placement games to play, and would then be in a provisional state. Your MMR will lower itself several times faster during this period, so even if you didnât freelose, you still wouldnât have to get rolled over for hours until you reach your 50/50 MMR.
That means that even playing the game the way you want youâd end up with that 50/50 ratio. No need to freelose for that (what youâre doing is freelosing, bot losing is using a hack program to do it in your stead, and is strictly forbidden).
Anyway, at the very least thanks for your honesty ; even if thatâs not the aim, this kind of feedback might be useful to people who care about the game. ^^
I mean I see your point of view but to think selfish people like me will sit though hours of getting smashed. Iâm not asking for anything i was just letting you know that when you see someone with 20 losses in a row that doesnât mean they are smurfing. I had not played in more than 4 seasons but I literally needed to lose thousands of mmr to be in the right bracket. I left the first 20 games and still got blasted the next 5. So I think the disconnect is this IT DOES in fact take hours doing it the normal way youâre simply wrong about that. Also there is a good chance i move back to another game in by the time Iâm placed correctly Iâm already back on warcraft 3 or something. TLDR anecdotally my account has loss botted and I had no intention of smurfing i just wanted to be able to play without trying and have a enjoyable match without hours of frustration.
Iâm afraid thatâs the very definition of a freelosing smurf (even though some do their freeloses in one time streaks). Because that might then place you below even your current level, even if in your case you donât mean to stay below it, nor to repeat the process.
You may have a point here indeed. This would plead in favor of reinstating a certain amount of MMR decay, as Abs suggested in another thread.
Thanks for taking the time of explaining your motivations, nonetheless.
Hey now I can do a bronze to diamond series as well. its not smurfing when I do it becuase I am a noob.
Rofl. ^^
Even if one attempted bronze to gold series, it could be labelled bronze to GM because of the smurfs you may encounter.
Best way to correct this thrower/smurf issue is to create a group of dedicated warriors who practice and battle for the sake of improvement and only those within the group can do so.
I think the game has a way to form such groups or clan? And you create ladder games. Masterfully delightful laddering by way of exclusivity. This will guarantee the absence of throwers.
Make the group one thousand members strong and you will have an abundance of variety.
theoretically, yea making a massive group could work, just like theoretically normal matchmaking would work if there were no throwers. Itâs a player behavior problem, like a college soccer player against kids in soccer or something since he doesnât want to face players at his level. Iâve played in clan wars, sc2 grassroots tourney like choboteamleague .com (<â shout out to them btw they pretty cool); but even they have had there issues with players pretending to be a rank there not to score easy wins. Its player behavior problem through and through.