The Terran Echo chamber effect

Its like everytime someone of the opposing race loses, Terrans are instantly on the forums to justify why thats the case.

But,

Terrans are also enmass complaining from the moment when there are no terrans in a round of 4.

Instead of actually looking at the game from an objective point of view.

They all skew the data and try to make people believe that there subjective subpar analysis is worth anything at all.

The sad part is Terrans are in such numerous numbers on the forums, that its become an echo chamber.

Where any slight or minor thing going bad for a terran, it echo’s into ‘the world is ending’.

These people are actively killing off starcraft 2 as a competitive game.

The saddest part is, its caused by a descision made at blizzard HQ during LotV release. Where blizzard actively started ‘listening in’ to the ‘community’.

Look at how far we have gotten. Terran keeps getting buff after buff every patch. Even if its slight buffs, theyr permanent buffs.

The other races nerf after nerf, maybe a buff somewhere but eventually nerfed back.

Look at protoss lategame in hots. And look at it in lotv.

Protoss ‘deathball’ was hated by terrans. Zergs never cared (Carriers where too strong for Z and thats about all Z really complained about.)

Since lotv every protoss unit that was in the deahtball has gotten a direct or indirect nerf.

Collosi is where it all started at. Terrans didnt like the collosi, it made protoss deathballs, deadly, MMM couldnt deal with it. And it was too ‘amove’. Terrans named it the “OP protoss ball”. At the same time, terrans where winning versus collosi by simply making vikings.

Collosi got nerfed, it only does its actuall damage versus light now instead of versus all.

Then oracle dps was too high ,oracles nerfed multiple times. so specifically terrans dont have to worry about an oracle massacring there worker lines by making oracles requiring to 3 shot instead of 2 shot an scv. (after that it was stealthnerfed even more, oracles attack slower)

Blink stalker, slower attack speed. Wich was considered by many terrans a buff to protoss. because it does more damage versus armored. But fail to mention quick attacking stalkers got nerfed when facing just marines. When facing hellions. When facing mines.When facing all the potential harrass type damage units terran has.

It also nerfed stalkers in the way when something required to be 2 shot with a group of stalkers. Like siege tanks, you better have exactly enough stalkers to be able to one shot it. Or else all your stalkers will die right after killing the 1 tank. Due to slower attack speed. The notion that instead of 10 stalkers you need 8 does not make this trade any better.

High templar feedback damage nerf. Wich made sure ghosts/medivacs couldnt be defended by a single one shot kill feedback. It basically made sure feedback is and forever will be the inferior spell over storm.

but it wasnt enough…

Then we got the infamous Ghost buff where they basically just slap on an extra upgrade to make it even more OP then it already was (versus protoss). wich made sure High templar based compositions (wich where used more now because of collosi nerfs) where completely nullified. This also hardcountered anyone playing a sentry style. Forcing protoss to use flimsy easily sniped and zoned out warpprism micro.

The warpprism. One of the ways protoss could do counter harrass to a terran by warping in zealots in the mains. Also got nerfed with a health reduction. less pickup range AND mineral increase cost. (wich blizzard said was for prism micro vs Z) But ofcourse terran got the long side of the stick again. Only requiring a few missile turrets to be build to quickly shut the low health prism down. And making it more expensive then ever. (what will happen when queens range is lowered again? Will the warpprism get even less pickup range?)

The zealot charge buff -> zealot charge nerf. to ‘equallize’ the playing field for protoss when many terran units gotten slight buffs and protoss losing collosi/ht as a lategame deathball composition. But then changed up to something worse no damage on impact, but speedy legs. because. Again. Terrans complaining about zealots allot. Even to this day terrans are still consistantly hammering down on zealots being too strong when it basically got nerfed to its old HotS version with a speed boost.

Forge upgrade buildtime increase because of chronoboost timings.

Chronoboost nerf to half its effectiveness.

Observer movement speed nerf

Every time a terran complained in the battle.net forums or on the pro stage there was a major buff given.

And these days we see terrans enmass complaining about the last fronteer of protoss. Expansions. the “quick unfair third” The eco lead protoss has over terran. The option to rebuild workers after the harrassment ,that otherwise, did game ending damage.

And guess what blizzard complies like they always do, making sure the terran community knows blizzard saw the ‘quick thirds’ from protoss and also sees them as a problem.

The next unit is on the roster now for terran to get nerfed. The already gimmicky and luck based disruptor. You can tell by the few terrans talking about disruptor being too strong that the sentiment is going that side again inside the echo chamber. Because terrans can lose to them.

Parting taking 10 bases, and making the strongest units protoss still has versus a 4 base TY who does no harrassment damage. Terran is still winning. Eventually gaining a huge lead in bases and army.

And terrans sentiment is “Parting played bad” “why did parting only make those units?” “bad army composition” “protoss is still more broken”.

When those are the only protoss units that havent gotten nerfed to obscureness.

And people actually believe this sentiment in the same way all indoctrination is done. By sheer permanent exposure of one sided misleading ‘fact’.

remember in WoL when protoss was actually OP for a certain period in time? That ‘problem’ Is still resonating in veteran terran players pretending there hasnt been a single balance patch since that day.

I dont understand what terrans could ask for more. They already have impentrable defenses, Instant kill harrassment potential. Strongest lategame, strongest multipronge harrass, strongest detection, strongest detection removal, strongest spellcaster, strongest air. Strongest anti air. Cheaper units. Faster mining with saturated bases. Easiest anti harrass defenses.

If you cant beat protoss as a terran this day and age, you dont deserve to face them on ladder in the first place. Because you are straight up less skilled and worse then the Protoss player.

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post protoss loss cry post.

parting played awful, was visibly tilted, and made numerous huge mistakes (not getting warpgate LOL, donating army into tanks, not walling, poor scouting). better player won, get over it and grab some popcorn for the TVT finals :slight_smile:

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Tell me what else parting is supposed to do on 8 base vs 4 base terran? Let terran expand freely and let terran get unbeatable lategame army?

You are stating he shudnt attack into tanks. So what shud he do then?

Thats what i thought you are one of the many terran fanboys with no reall awnsers.

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he could start with not splitting his army into 2 groups, a moving 1 of them into tank as the flank just sits there.

or paths his entire army into tanks

or uses DTs as a combat unit draining his bank.

but i know you think hes a god and cant make mistakes because protoss players never make mistakes. such a godly play not getting warpgate in g3 :smiley:

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The problem in what you are stating is that you ‘expect’ if PartinG did all those things, he wouldve beaten TY.

Presumptions. TY was bunkered in, with supply depots defending his tanks. PartinG couldnt break him even if both hotkey groups would collide at the same time.

DT’s didnt drain his bank. Not having his expansions mining because ghost where nuking them drained his bank.

His strategy, if you didnt realise by now, was to permanently swarm with DT and zealot untill terran siege lines where broken. Trading uneven trades, but killing bases. yet still having the extra bases to backup the deficit. Thats what PartinG’s strategy was.

permanently trade with a higher worker count. To prevent terran from expanding. To prevent terran from teching up. (wich in both instances terran did)

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its not exactly trading when you just donate units into fortified positions.

great strategy.

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So tell me mr pro. How does protoss fortify there positions like that?

Oh no wait, you terrans didnt want protoss to sit back and build a deathball. You actively removed the option from protoss to play like that.

Tell me what other strategy parting couldve used. Tell me what else parting couldve done lategame.

But ofcourse. theres never an awnser, because you are pure toxicity. You dont want a conversation about balance. You want to persuade people by personal attacks and trashtalking about me.

You have no factual knowledge. And if you do. You are definatly not showing it because you know what the numbers add up to.

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this is rich, you do nothing but complain. can you at least admit he made massive mistakes in nearly every loss? even the casters who treat players with kid gloves were like yeah that was bad.

instead of worrying about things you cant control, worry about things you can, idk like getting a key upgrade like warpgate do you dont die to 3reaps and 5 hellions.

or repeatedly throwing your army away.

Still no true awnsers. Reported for trolling again. Stop defiling my thread with your trashtier sub par analyses.

This entire OP i made was specifically cattered to people like you. And you still dont get the message. You are not wanted here.

Go campaign for trump and spread misinformation there.

Stop destroying starcraft 2 because you are too inept to play legit. Stop rellying on Patches to make you a better rank.

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i love how ridiculous you are. have any more replays flaming opponents and balance whining when you got outworked with your 130 apm?

Is this really all you can do? Personal attacks? Go see a shrink if you need attention so badly. Stop ruining sc2’s balance for your own ego.

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if im ruining the game by trolling you what does flaming opponents mid game after getting completely outplayed do for the game?

Can anyone tell me how blizzard deals with trolls, if any at all.

This guy needs an IP ban for atleast a few weeks. Because its quite clear this is his trolling account.

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На майка Ти в путката,скапан диамант! :smiley: HAHAHAHA

OM NOM NOM NOM Protoss tears, they are so tasteful <3

Protoss has the best macro and the late game favours them if they aren’t absolute retards. Just make 13 bases and go sky toss… its free win. But parting too bad to understand basic unit composition. It’s crazy how far a bad player can go when he’s playing and abusing an imbalance race. The Terran players are just better than Protoss players in GSL (or in general). If it were only up to skill and not bad balance, there would be no Protoss in Ro4 or Ro8, the top Koreans terrans are just so much better than the best Protoss. But still, 3/8 Protoss in the round of 8 who got free pass into the most prestigious tournament because BLINK STALKERS HUR DUR HUR

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I get it, terran doesnt require allot of IQ.

But please stop pretending you understand anything about starcraft 2 with that kind of IQ. Please. Yes i get it, you get carried to a league you dont belong in. Yes i get it, the opponents you face are 20 times better then you and you blame it on imbalance. But for all thats holy, First learn how counters work.

Thats all i ask from you. Learn how counters work.

If you think skytoss doesnt get absolutely destroyed by BC ghost, Please first learn howto micro properly.

If you dont know what a thor is or what it does. Please first read the manual before you start playing.

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Typical stuff of Terran to focus on game 6, not mentioning how TY got 3-0 lead. And it was disgusting actually. Imagine your die just because you unit becomes slower?
Those concussive shells “win” was the most retarded one in GSL semi finals I’ve seen and I saw them all…
You can say anything like “Parting would or Parting should”, but you just never experienced 3 hellion drop at 3:53 in current meta that will kill all of your probes just because you have zero alternative to stalker in early game…

Even Parting played poor in last game TY did simply nothing to advance to final. Either cheese or turtle. This is disgusting…

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Marauder build just dies against stargate openers. It was solely done because Parting played one build over and over.

And this is what it boils down to doesnt it. You want starcraft 2 to be a gambling game. Where scans and proxy reapers can scout an entire protoss build. But where protoss is reliant on adept shades that cant even get into the main to even get a glimpse of what terran is doing because of depots.

Imagine if PartinG did indeed go stargate. And imagine if TY instead did a proxy reactored marine cheese.

Imagine Stargate being able to do the same extensive damage as microing stalkers would.

Well newsflash. Stargate is terrible in PvT. Oracles dont do anything versus 3 shot SCV. Mines exist, not the offensive mines, but the defensive mines. that instant kill oracles, they 2 hit phoenixes wich clump. Stargate doesnt allow for reliable detection. Stargate doesnt allow you to expand quickly because you lack ground units to defend. And stargate gets hardcountered by 2 turrets properly placed.

Stargate is so barebones that any timing allin would instnatly kill a stargate player simply by not being able to have both ground units and phoenixes with energy because of sheer cost.

Mines kill stargate based openers so hard its not even funny.

Any terran stating protoss should go stargate should uninstall the game and just ask for a refund because this is not the game they payed for.

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With new “adjusted” oracle damage it is just half of truth…if terran get a bunker it is over for you and oracle wont do anything + TY had 4-5 marines, oracle is awful right now as well as adept vs Terran.

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