Cant be cleared cause same 140 supply hydra witch 3-3 awaits plus spore corraptors and viper but can cleared if count carrier be 8 or 10
Ehm… ravens can be feedbacked. Tempests are a thing. There should be always some ground army (Archons PvZ; Stalkers PvT) against BCs. I dont think Carriers are too weak there.
And yes, spore forests can be cleared but its hard work and zerg can rebuild very fast corrupt/Hydra/Infest/viper army. Protoss cannot do the same
Like how raven get feedback while ghost emp witch upgrade 12 feed back 11 either first cast who gets protoss sky was emp cause actually ghost already front position im march plus tempest had large overkill so it was hilarious watch
As i say get a bunch thor switch splash mode witch same bc ghost and raven even witch cyclone for support
I have a simple counter proposal that satisfies your desire to make Carriers more APM heavy, without breaking the carriers usage and purpose and without taxing the attention of the Protoss.
- If commanded to attack move, Interceptors will attack units individually, spreading their DPS across different units.
- Interceptors from the same Carrier will not attack the same unit, unless the carrier is given a direct command to attack a specific target; only then shall all the interceptors from the same carrier, attack the same target.
This makes the carrier require a bit more APM, but not much, just requires an additional target fire specification.
Discuss please OP, I would be fine with this.
I think the best buff for carriers is an overcharge ability, it becomes super tanky and builds interceptors super fast after activating BUt its AUTOMATICALLY destroyed after 5 to 8 secs? Whatever is d duration to kill the viper that abducted it, for abduct counter
This is a good suggestion. I was also thinking about this. BUT this not make Carriers better in any sence. This is example of “Make Carriers cost APM”, but I want “Make Carriers better if microed better”. I know carrierrs would be better when microed but it is not bonus for today Carrier. It would be an disadvantage. Unfortunately
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Ahm is my idea consume apm? When u saw the abducted carier u click it, click hotkey of overcharge then right click viper? Ur rewarded when ur fast
You idea was attempt kill unit
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Hmm… Thats interesting Hollow. I think you nearly got it. This is a very good suggestion.
It would be viable most of the time but not in large engagements. This would be OP there I guess. “Think about 80 marines shooting this one Carrier which applies its super tanky ability”
I really think this is good suggestion but Im afraid of those Big clashes. Very nice try. Lot of people like to add self-destruct with huge dmg and detonation zone but super tanky ability would be great. It do not make Carrier damage higher but it cannot die and deal the small amount of damage it can.
(In addition to your suggestion I would like Carriers to not waste minerals while making interceptors when this ability is casted)
Ya i alredy made a separate thread bout it
And I replied to AvionBlade before. That was the APM consumption.
I don’t know if carriers are the right lever to push to fix PvZ, BTW your changes are basically a nerf, a way to introduce hardship leaving the mechanics of the match up the same.
You don’t need to make carriers harder, you need to give them higher ceiling.
My proposal (very similar to that of another user) is to make ceptors anti light units (so that their dmg is lowered against other targets) and adding heavy ceptors, which would be used like you suggest. Carriers this way would have two targets, but they would do less damage if there is not efficient micro to back the targetting system.
BTW I would act on other units to heighten protoss late skill ceiling (dark archon?)
Oh somebody mention dark archont lol so initial dps nerfed again and the we take a caster unit witch low dps on hand im right?
That is a net and huge nerff (even tricky to implement due to current way of how units attack).
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Terran or zerg not care that they just want delete carrier from game i think
Imagine if carriers had a similar ability to yamato cannon. People would FREAK out. There’s really nothing much you can do except buff carriers so that they can actually fight mass marine at least.
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… Ummm… Mass marines can’t kill mass carriers. You need something to support the marines, like battlecruisers or vikings or liberators, etc.
Bruh MMM kill 6 carrier in the end 12 maybe not
Yea, I meant mass > 6… You aren’t specific by the amount. Most of the time protoss will wreck mmm