The fix for Protoss

Protoss Discussion
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So, Protoss may seem OP sometimes in lower MMRs but it is because plainly everyone sucks so its the race with the lower skill ceiling.

I play Terran and Zerg and i really dont like Protoss, but its not good for the game having all championships between terran or zerg.

I have 2 buffs in mind that i think would be good for the game, one definitely should help, the other one is just a cool idea that may be implemented.

1.- Vespene Automator … One of the biggest weaknesses of protoss is basically the runbys, be it zergling run bys or drops, etc. Workers are too much of a macro weakness compared to Terran having Mule or droning, if you lose a worker as a Protoss it is just way harsher.

One way to minimize this is this upgrade that would “Automate” vespene gas, so that it doesnt require workers like in the Campaign… yeah hear me out! before you cry OP!.. i have a way to balance it.

First its a researched upgrade, that would cost 300/300 /60s on the Nexus after the Cytadel, and what it would do is it would allow each individual Assimilator to be upgraded (Similar to Gate > Warp Gate), for a 50/50 /15s (1 supply, lets call it the remote operator), and it requires a Nexus in proximity, an Assimilator can once upgraded go back to normal and be operated manually. But this new Automated Vespenes would not have workers, and cost only 1 supply (potentially freeing also some workers for late game army), (once a vespene geyser doesnt have more gas, the 1 supply is cleared).

This can add about 16 more supply for late game army, a bit OP, maybe. But late game protoss is trash already, Carriers are garbage, Mothership is a meme, etc… (also many geysers are already depleted at that point and workers are given to clear space, also terran can also mule, which also free space for army, and you could even give Zerg 220 pop supply if it proves too OP, it would go with the theme of zerg being the most numerous)

Also the upgrade cost, having to manually upgrade and all it has it drawbacks, a few considerations, when the Assimilator is upgrading, you cant extract gas.

And this would have the benefit of at least needing some less workers, softening the blow of run bys…

The next upgrade i want to talk about is the Annhilator unit. Build at robotics once the bay is done, it would cost the same of the immortal. But basically the Annhilator Immortal from the protoss campaign. Its basically an Immortal without the shields, but with a 200 DMG cannon (the cooldown would have to be massively increased), but this would give protoss some form of anti air from the ground against heavy targets where its severely lacking, Stalkers are a joke.

Im not so sure about this upgrade but its food for thought… About the vespene one tho, i think the Protoss buff needs to come from that direction. Its just way too easily harassed and cant ever leave a defending position

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I think problem ur facing is same problem zerg suffers.

Stalkers have no problem vs Zerg so only issues come down Protoss and Terran.

But I think issues really comes to strength of air.

Bc, carriers , tempest and void rays toss has no real answer outside air it self.

Which is same boat that Zerg is in.

Toss has second best defense that can easily deal with drops in, toss has better mechanics to deal with this then zerg.

So if you can stop drops Zerg then u should have no problems with toss.

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I play Zerg not protoss but i barely see them on competitive play

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in choosing a race , one has to enjoy the dynamics of the race . then not change ones horse to zerg or terran on the way up .

terran has temping and relatable units

zerg , you get to be the bad guy or under dog

toss ? some kidna uber teck paladin with a thing for power ?

toss needs to be the COOL option or the best for micro option , or something , toss dosent stand out to me as an idenity .

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Ummm its late game where protoss are literally the strongest? Also protoss wins at lower levels because, as their defining trait as a race, their units are more expensive, but more cost efficient and extremely powerful at tier 4 (TA, DS, FB, RB). A maxed out late game protoss army with upgrades will almost always win late game unless the opponent has far superior micro. Also, the mothership is amazing if you can use it properly; It has a recall ability that can no only double your recall count and give you one on both sides of the map but also can allow for some very whacky builds, as demo-ed by uThermal’s mothership rushes. And as a stalker/robo player, I am EXTREMELY and UTTERLY offended at the disrespect towards our teleporting friends /j. But seriously stalkers are good as long as you know how to use blink well. If its just on top of tanks and lurkers then that’s on you. Also, again, protoss is the late game advantage race, while zerg is early/terran is mid. Having to usually be very defensive is the drawback for protoss unit superiority. and also, you don’t even need to be defensive, chargelot allins are extremely good and popular, and I personally like stalker/immortal contains, since they pretty much can’t be fought without planned allin builds at my level.

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I think you should watch some of the old SoS games and look up why they were unique. Toss has always been known for allowing the most creative builds, due to the nature of their arsenal. Pro toss (see what i did there?) are really fun to watch.