This, seriously. Playing without BCs against Zerg feels disadvantaged at all stages of the game.
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Itās not the BC thatās OP, Zerg can deal with them, they have a lot of counters, Neural/Abduct with Corruptors, even Ravagers can help vs BCs while covering the ground army, but you look at the Protoss side you got the Tempestā¦ we all know how bad the Tempest counter any unit, even if the Terran lose all the BCs to Tempest the remax of Marines is enough to take down any Tempest based army.
So my claim is that itās the Protoss lategame units that are bad. So, Iām against nerfing the BC, Iām all for buffing Carriers/Tempests.
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A diamond Protossā opinionā¦
If you donāt know anything about TvZ donāt bother posting about it. Well, I guess not knowing what youāre talking about has never stopped you before.
Literally not even one month over 56% and Terran was above 50% many times. You know your argument is pathetic when you need to lie this badly.
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You can make the case that many units are badly designed, roach ability to tranform into ravager is badly designed, giving the ability to upgrade a 65/25 mass able unit into something useful with no tag?
Lings are badly designed after adrenal they massacre zealots,cannons you need 2 archons and some zealot just to stop a routine runby of 500 minerals investment from killing your vital base.
Carriers are badly designed in pvp, the first one that can afford the transition wins and they require simple shift click target fire. Uninspired and boring design.
Protoss is badly designed in general, who thought that a race will be fun if you need to rely on few high tech units to get by? Miss micro a ff, or miss target fire your immortals,lose your prism and you just die.
Is BC bad design? No!
What is bad about the BC is that itās purpose was to be a late game death ball unit but it is used the same way as an oracle or a banshee, just early game harass ,disruption and scouting.
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Thatās called the bare bones of proper video game design and unfortunately, the balance team doesnāt prescribe to such basic beliefs.
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fixed that for you
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Uhhhh thats literally what Iām saying is bad about the BCās designā¦ that its acting as a harass unit instead of a lategame capital shipā¦
Although you are on the fence about tactical jump, you have made like 3-4 topics regarding that.
Aligulac is a data source. The sun shines white, but what does that mean? Does it mean unicorns exist? Of course not! Does the non existence of unicorns prove the data about the sun is wrong? Nope!
Donāt substitute the validity of the data with the validity of your interpretation of the data. Your theory can be bat!@#$ insane and that has nothing to do with the validity of the data. If you create a bad theory and get called out on it then thatās on your theory, not the data.
Move tempest to gateway and all will be made right again
That wasnt related to my post at all but ok. It was more of a critisism that suddenly aligulac is now trustworthy for zerg. in 2019 they didnt want to hear anything about aligulac.
And btw you are the last person to lecture me about data or the interpretation of dataā¦
Canāt wait to see the winrates for next month on aligulac. It will result in 3 possible outcomes.
If zerg is favoured, forum zergs will say aligulac is untrustworthy and unreliable!
If terran is favoured then forum zergs will cite aligulac as a trustworthy source.
If TvZ is around 50% which is indicative of TvZ right now, that is still simply too of high a winrate for Terran, and we need another year of braindead ZvZ finals.
Special rules for me but not for thee!
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I wouldnāt make the tempest if it came from the gateway and cost 100/100 and took 2 supply.
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Yes you would because that means you could warp gate it in as a proper reaction instead investing in the trash panda unit preemptively.
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Tempest needs either a stronger AtA attack or AtG attack but not both. It needs to define its role better and right now I can understand the plight about it being a fairly shocking unit.
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You could add Thor to this topic. It doesnāt have a hard counter in TvZ. Supported by tanks, hellbats, and possibly also liberators and maybe Vikingsā¦ it is so versatile that you can build up a comp around it that can be very difficult if not impossible for Zerg to attack into.
The problem for BC is more that it is available too early rather than too good at everything. It has a hard counter in any combination of corrupters, infestors, and Vipers (though Infestors usually preferable VS BC).
In TvP, you could say BC is too good at everything. Protoss doesnāt have a true counter to it late game and if they manage to mass BCs you can, at best, hope to trade even because of Yamato. But it is rare that Terran are able to get a critical mass of BC.
BC is fine, keep BC as it is!
Zerg has Abduct and Neural, to deal with BCs.
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Nope. I already made a thread about being called dumb for making tempests vs BCs. I was going tempests before guy was even going BCs. I just kept making themā¦
Who am I to disagree? I think anytime someone makes a tempest, Blizzard should mail them a helmet to wear. This unit is so bad, that if the balance team had 3 year olds, all of them would know this unit is freaking stupid. The kids would ask for new parents. They would be that ashamed. Wellā¦ given they have same genes, crayons are probably stuck up their nose.
They treat mech like itās the fourth race in the game and 100x more important than Toss. Who plays the āfourth race?ā Avilo and Ruff. Iām 99.99999% sure they nerfed the tempest and buffed the thor because of Ruff.
Ruff plays nearly every day. 8 hours a day. Heās 5100 MMR. His mechanics are horrible. His strategy is even worse. Yet, this guy who doesnāt even have GM MMR atmā¦ was able to qualify in WCS last year. He beat a Toss player with over 6k MMR, 2-0, in macro games.
In the balance teamās eyesā¦ the problem isnāt Toss never winning tournaments, itās that the fourth raceā¦ isnāt winning tournaments. What level of Toss should Ruff be annihilating? Neeb or people his level? 5000 Toss players? Until the fourth race wins tournamentsā¦ more and more Terran units are going to stop having counters to them. Itās sad.
The most embarrassing thing in this game is watching a mech player try to play Toss (Avilo and Ruff). They play Toss how they play Terran. The only difference is, one gets you bronze league, the other gets you WCSā¦
They think they can make anything they want. Donāt need to hotkey anything. They canāt win any gamesā¦ and mech with Terran and Toss are the most similar style wise.
Hello? How about making āToss mech a thing?ā If the superbly talented Ruff and Avilo canāt make Toss workā¦ then OBVIOUSLY Toss needs the buffs. 
Blizzard should pay Ruff to play Protoss. It wonāt take long to realize how much of a sham this game has been.
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Meanwhile, further up the page
Its like forum terrans are trying to make themselves look stupid