That’s not true. I’ve beaten returning players who wre masters in WoL and HOTS and im barely plat.
You cant compare the 2. Balance wise the entire game turned and twisted allot during the transition.
The 12 worker start made extreme balance changes happen.
The game in HotS is quite literally an entirely different beast compared to LotV.
All the timings are different. In HotS for instance you could actually pressure and allin on 2 base as P. In LotV you basically cant.
in HotS expanding to a third was extremely difficult for a protoss. In LotV its quite the opposite. Balance changes also reflect on that.
I am personally struggling allot in LotV climate, in HotS i used to be a safe player, who created his own builds.
In LotV everything protoss can do is set on a timer with a window on it. Making creative macro plays impossible to do.
in lotv Zergs have a much easier time to max out on drones due to there timings being completely different. The inject mechanic change also made sure not just the top Z’s could macro efficiently but also lower leagues.
In HotS forcefields where one of the most important aspects of the protoss army vs Z. With ravagers, Forcefields are almost never used effectively anymore, and if they are used, they are used to timegate. Protoss soultrain anyone. It doesnt exist anymore.
2 base allins also quickly fall off due to the resource change to minerals in base. You are basically forced to expand if you want the game to last more then 10 min.
Wich wasnt the case in HotS.
Terrans have had it the hardest i believe in the transition. Seeing they relly mostly on MMM balls. Protoss in that sense has quicker access to tech.
But on the flipside terran gained one of the strongest buffs to tanks and had liberators added to the game wich on there own can basically win you games by leapfrogging.
Immortal change was also HUGE. Immortals in HotS where almost never seen enmass like they are now.
Yet immortals could literally hardcounter tank fires in HotS changing the entire dynamic of the matchup to be heavily focussed on tanks for defense.
I want to add that the Cyclone and Lurker in MyOhMind mod feels very similar to Goliath and Lurker BW playstyle and that is great.
Adepts shooting air is also a great change to spice up the phoenix vs phoenix meta. The Adept is the go-to unit to kill light air flying units.
Really wish we had this kind of stuff in-game.
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I kinda forgot the point of this entire thread with all this debatin’.
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It’s been like that, every thread turns into debate lately.
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What were the cyclone changes btw, I can’t find a change log anywhere and when I booted it up I’m not gonna lie I couldn’t tell what was different
My gold friend who never improved his GP suddendly jumped into the diamond league, that’s facts all of them got to diamond even though nothing changed in the game. Just that the level right now is very very low.
If you are not M1 then people cannot even execute a build properly for 3mn
I wish that were the case.
Look at the attack range. It now will always stay behind hellions.
Also that’s the beauty of all these changes, some are so subtle but incredibly impactful for the units without breaking balance.
I do have a thread with all the changes(always had it, just no one bothered to look for it). Close to wrapping up the Protoss changes and I need to add explanations for all the changes.
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I’m a generic forum user so I won’t try to find it. Would you mind linking it?
Sure, I’m hoping to complete the Protoss changes this week anyways.
I like how this went from “Hey this mod is pretty cool, you should check it out” to whatever this fustercluck is. LOL
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I know!. Everyone lost track of it.
That is the part where you were supposed to actually link the thread.
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Hold on that gives me an idea…
No, only Infestors, SH, BroodLords, Vipers, Zerglings and Hydras.
Vipers, Zerglings, Broodlords and Hydralisk(which could use a small buff) are fine.
Also if you do like the mod, please consider giving it a 5 star rating. Those are really helpful because the last few ratings it got were from over a year ago when the mod first was made, it’s had hundreds of iterations and changes to get to the great state in is in now.
Can you just quit trolling and do it? Nobody seems to know where this thread of yours is.
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Can you just quit trolling and do it? Nobody seems to know where this thread of yours is.
I updated the mod to include it. Both in the link under the description of the mod and in the patch notes part of the mod.
The thread isn’t even hard to find, just use common sense when it comes to map editor threads and map editor maps or content on these forums.