Terran statistically losing both match ups

Check the latest period on aligulac. 2k+ pro games in both match ups - Both TvZ and PvT are currently not in Terrans favor.

Funny, considering the immense amount of whine coming from zergs and some protoss on here. Nice to have the actual numbers to make it clear that you are in FACT a whiner if you complain about Terran. Love it… haha

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Actually, I see all 3 races whining in these forums. I shared in another thread that:

  • 70% of the posts are people whining about buffs / nerfs
  • 10% are trolls who just want more <3s on their posts
  • 20% are genuine people who are discussing about strats

It’s always amusing because it seems like the units (balancing) are always the problem.

Never the player.

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The latest tournament had FIVE Terran players in the RO8.

Last time something like this happened but with Protoss having 5 players in the RO8, in the GSL Code S season 2 of last year. A ridiculous balance patch that triple nerfed Protoss and buffed stim and EMP happened right after. Just sayin’

If I was a Terran I’d stay low for a bit… :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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Why look at all games when you can cherry pick an individual stage of an individual tournament that satisfies your confirmation bias?

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
+10000000000000000000
You ruined the day for the likes of Bourne and his ilk. Usually those guys don’t like to be reminded of facts (when they do not align with their Mythology).

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I’m just saying… historically 5 players of the same race in RO8 of a premier tournament is something that was never accepted by the balance team, ever… for non-Terran races at least.

I don’t think Terran is too strong, but saying Terran is lagging in these circumstances is 100%, without a doubt, absolutely disgusting and dishonest.

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You know what’s the problem with Terran? They can’t collect their paychecks all inning anymore.

Seriously, think about it, the lasts 4 patches (or more), everything Terran got was buffs asside from nerf to the proxy plays and they are still not satisfied. There must be a correlation in there somewhere…

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Hahaha. I like you people. Complaining and looking at evidence isn’t a sin. =)
It helps to have a little more emotional drive when researching and pushing your agendas (agenda being hope for a better game).

So in all seriousness, and to the tune of the 20% Kyrie was speaking of… Name one thing that each race should have buffed and one thing they should have nerffed to equal out the game a bit?

(Don’t be shy to back up your claim with a lengthy post).
I’d be very interested in seeing a civil and meaningful response. ^^

Terrans are 4 of the top 7 players. They’re dominating.

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2020/21/Korea/Standings

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To be fair its rather about protoss. Neither the community nor the balance Team would let protoss domination happening.

They received numerous red Flags about zerg imbalance in 2019 which resulted eventually in a 5/8 blizzcon (biggest tournament BY FAR). Only then they decided to fix it. But they nerfed protoss right after ONE rather little meaningless gsl st because protoss chose to cheese rather than go for very unfavorable mid or lategame. I cant stress the difference enough.

Blizzard is ok with zerg or Terran dominating and so is the community. If protoss is on the edge of dominating hell breaks loose because of dem lasers.

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WCS 2019 Global Finals 5 Zerg in RO8 :).
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2019_WCS_Global_Finals

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Yes, it is a great reality check that Aligulac displayed Terran slightly disadvantaged in both matchups when the Protoss and Zerg players keep repeating lies like this is Terran OP patch.

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Good, now for once go and call out the equal number of Zerg and Protoss whiners you see doing equally as pathetic nonsense on a daily basis? Just because you’ve never had the balls to call out a Zerg, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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“absoulutely disgusting and dishonest”

dude…i literally just quoted aligulac, thats based on nothing but the numbers. dishonest? lol…get a grip biased diamond zerg player.

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Zerg gets heavily nerfed, Terran gets buffed
TvZ winrate at the pro level drops

TCF: REEEEEEEE

Looks like the mechanically easiest race that is constantly getting buffed has made Terran pros complacent or something. Too much a-moving thors, move clicking BCs, set and forget, rapid fire snipe has led to skill atrophy perhaps.

Terran needs to be made harder to force Terran pros to rely on skill and ingenuity to win. Maybe then they can catch up to Zerg pros’ skill, and capacity to improve and adapt

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Right, very empirical evidence you are bringing to the table as usual sir berserksword. lol. somehow all the best players are zerg! they just dont want to play protoss or terran…ling bane micro soooo hard hahaha.

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Zerg JUST got heavily nerfed and here you are complaining about a dip in the TvZ winrate.

How else would you explain this dip other than the fact that Zerg pros can overcome straight up nerfs with skill and ingenuity?

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Statisically, Terran players in general are lower skill players

Low skill terran boys just need to GIT GUD and L2P

But they won’t since crying/whining is easier for those kids

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TCF did the same thing last year, after ghosts got enhanced shockwaves and chargelots lost charge damage. They started whining about Protoss being OP, Trap eliminating maru in the Code S, PvT winrate started climbing, etc, right after the massive buff for terran and nerf for protoss in TvP

Unbelievable lol

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Yeah right, but maybe you forgot the greatest StarCraft player who ever lived aka Flash.

There’s also Innovation, Maru, TY, Taeja…