Tac Jump -> Banshee?

General Discussion
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So it’s not really a secret that banshee is pretty underused. I mean yeah there’s a game once in a blue moon where some madman terran makes 6 banshees but usually it’s only 1 or 2 to catch opponent off guard.

Battlecruiser… is battlecruiser. Does the job better a lot of the time. Mostly because it has extra hp and tac jump to escape when low. It also translates well to late game because Yamato.

Banshees are supposed to be stealthy, super slippery, and generally the hit-and-run bomber. Why do we have teleport on the capital ship instead?

So allow banshees to tactical jump when they research hyperflight rotors. Have it cost energy with a shorter cooldown, possibly remove the 1 second delay before jump, since banshees are squishy already and you can already stop them via feedback/EMP/fungal. This is applying to banshee tactical jump: battlecruisers left unchanged

I don’t actually expect any good input to come to this thread, just putting an idea out there

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HEY IT’S ME!! Unfortunately only when I trololo on teamgames…

Expect the zerg posts!

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I think banshees are already too fast for tactical jump to be relevant

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Nothing is too fast for teleport to be relevant.

As for why not, banshee is bomber, it has no FTL. BC is a capital ship. It has FTL.

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Banshees are a more powerful opener than BCs. They aren’t used because they are difficult to do. In order to make banshee openers as popular as BC openers, you’d have to buff the banshee in a way that makes it virtually identical to the BC. E.g., high health/armor, insane DPS and nothing more than move-click micro. SC2 doesn’t need more of that kind of nonsense. SC2 needs less. If anything the BC should be removed. The game has never been more boring to play or watch. It’s like the game doesn’t start until the 12 minute mark but you’ve got to hammer out 400 apm the entire time before it does start. Not to mention the plummeting number of players who still play this dead game.

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This is straight up lie. You can defend banshee with 1 queen and spore. More than one, you get overseer.

There is reason people dont use it, other than “Terran bad” you always think of.

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It’s not. Cure vs Serral. Every game Cure went BC he lost. Every time he opened hellion banshee of hellion liberator he won.

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Its funny, how terrans are going nuts against nydus, because it lets you travel around the map in no time. At the same time, tj is completely fine for them.

Tj doesnt belomg in this game. Atleast not in the early game.

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What do you think serral has more exp with. Defending most popular opener or obscure one?

Pros die to strategies they arent familiar with because they train to perfection those they are.

That’s only reason why mass reaper works once in 10 tournaments. Its absolute trash, but how the hell are they supposed to fight it? They will find out, but not during the game where you pressure constantly.

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I guarantee he has 100x more practice vs banshees than vs bcs.

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How do you guarantee that? Everyone opens BC.

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Actually, the Banshee is a gunship, I believe. Completely different from a bomber.

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The BC opener is a recent thing while banshee openers have been around for 10 years?

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They were around. Were they used often? Not rly.

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They were the defacto standard opener for 10 years. 99% of games opened that way. The lack of build opener diversity was one of the big criticisms of terran in WoL and HotS.

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Yes, having exp with playing in different versions of the game automatically translates into proficiency with killing banshees 10 years later.

Also, Terran still doesnt have any early build diversity. Especially in TvZ.

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Wtf?
16 rine drop
6hellion into battlemech
Hellion into hellbat allin
Hellion into hellbat/marauder allin
Hellion into “old” tank mech
Liberator opening
Banshee opening
Bc opening
Etc

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16 rine drop <- Havent seen yet
6hellion into battlemech <- Seen once
Hellion into hellbat allin <- Havent seen yet this year
Hellion into hellbat/marauder allin <- Havent seen this year
Hellion into “old” tank mech <- Thisone is ok
Liberator opening <- Havent seen once this year, dont even remember last year
Banshee opening <- Seen few. Mostly crushed
Bc opening <- Standart opening

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Then you don’t watch many tvz it is pretty common. go watch cure IEM qualifier

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Tactical Jump is an awful ability for any unit to have. Would make more sense to just make that afterburner upgrade also give afterburners to banshees and BCs. I just fixed terrans starport units, you can thank me whenever.

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