Starcraft 2 mobile?

what does everyone think of a starcraft 2 mobile game? with cross platform support for ps5, xbox, etc?

i know everyone remembers n64 starcraft as a massive flop, because you couldnt actually play starcraft, but what if the mobile game had an option to use AI in a “build assist” mode that lets a player level up their AI which can define and execute a build order for them to get to battlecruisers, or hydralisks, or whatever units they want? so that the mobile product can support competitive ranked ladder

i think it would be really fun, especially if the PC version supported cross platform play

mobile games are really good at selling microtransactions, and its a huge market. it would be fun to experience new starcraft content

https://youtu.be/MmkHAlhCvWg?t=100

“Old Guard” of players who used to play Blizzard games, would be more looking for games they can use their RTX 3090 for, not their phones.

But now we have Activision instead of Blizzard Entertainment, so idk.

A few notes:
Activision doesn’t actually care about microtrasnactions for SC2 - no more skins, you can’t buy old skins and so on.
Tbh I’d company to make some unique new content instead of adding lootboxes to 11 years old game, so I do disagree with you a lot.

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unless you wanna couple a mouse and keyboard on that mobile screen you are severly hampered in unit control since box select f.e. takes longer and or accuracy of spell casting like feedback or snipe is highly unusable due to the low healthpool in general on units
same accessment i’d give gamepad controll, i mean there are several instances of older games which showcase that, stuff like cnc red alert on original ps1 f.e.

so yeah a console/mobile adaptation will be hard to control compared to the mouse and keyboard variant and thus kills some styles

my thought on a altered sc rts on consoles, could be interesting but actblizz has to start from zero for ballancing reasons which will take some serious resources from other projects so yeah i can’t see them doin that anytime soon, also i have to keep in mind some key developers has left already and i can’t imagine treyarch having the expertise or time to do so f.e.

Do you know what Mobile gamers and Console only gamers have in common? They tend to like simple, casual games. I don’t mean that as a slight, it’s just the reality. It’s why CoD is so successful on consoles: You don’t need to know/learn much, just turn it on and shoot the people on screen. It’s why Idle Clickers are so popular on mobile. This is one of the multiple reasons RTS hasn’t proliferated on console/mobile. The other, more obvious reason: Input methods are abysmal compared to kb+m due to the requirement of fine control in RTS. That means there would a soft requirement for console/mobile to purchase a compatible kb/m for their platform or be at a severe disadvantage to anyone on those platforms that are using that equipment. Having a hardware barrier to entry (regardless of how relatively inexpensive) negatively impacts the amount of customers willing to invest in the initial product.

So no, I don’t think SC2, or any other RTS, should be ported to mobile/console. It’s a waste of time and resources that could be spent on real improvements/new titles.

Not sure about anyone else, but I have a hard time understanding why everyone is so obsessed with wanting their games on a small screen. Doesn’t make sense to me. Plus these kinds of games EAT at your battery life, so unless you’re charging up constantly, you won’t even be able to play for that long.

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Blizzard won’t even give new ladder maps – where they don’t even have to do any work because the community makes the maps for them, but yeah maybe they will add a whole new platform.

You can download an n64 emulator and play starcraft 64 on your phone

My money is going to a stupid mobile online strategy-rpg game (why you ask? Because once dragged and when being competitive you want to show these n00bs that they are not hard core players but then you gotta buy stuff like them since they want to be pay to win). I can confirm that these people dont have a clue of games like warcraft and starcraft when they cant even recognize the game names when I put wc3 or sc2 in my name.

We are talking daddies, families, some even paying their kids to boost their account so their kids dont cry they get bullied in the game. Talk about ‘pull his pants up coz he cant and will be forever baby’ kind of generation. It is what DeMuslim once said in his stream… so he banned some kid from his channel and then Daddy comes to ask DeMuslim to unban his kid. Hilarious.

And in such family games (never mind that mobile games allow such sexual names (thus not so family friendly) and dirty names im like - virgin man children?? why would you find it cool to name your account something sexual?).

And in such games, a lot of things are automated… there is basically little to no brain usage. And most mobile games consist of mega boosters (some pay THOUSANDS of dollars and rely on being that strong… TRUE SKILL to be ‘better’)

Mobile games are also often hidden casinos - pay to get random loot but the loot is so that the most wanted item is 0.001% chance to get so that you pay gazillion.

That’s mobile games and they are the … future. What else is the Block system games… that use items to use with crypto-currencies. I would rather have what we know as games till this era.

Dude I could play SC BW on my old phone using Winmulator or how was it called… runs perfectly. I can now proly play warcraft 3 but um good luck microing on phone vs someone that plays from PC

Have you heard of and seen Art of War 3: Global Conflict. It’s been out on mobile for about 6 years.
It is an RTS with AI and you can upgrade all units and buildings and you have heroes to upgrade , too. Look it up. Creating SC2 on mobile is not a waste of time nor a waste of resources. I believe it would be a big hit. Look it up. See for yourself.

You can already play Broodwar on android using an emulator like Wine. I haven’t seen any benchmarks but it probably requires a higher end ARM cpu like the a76. The a76 scores similarly to the pentium D processors listed as the minimum requirements for playing broodwar. Pentium D scores 739 in passmark and the a76 scores 1484, so it should run fine. The nice thing about the RK3588 is that it has FOUR a76 processors and 4 a55s, so the total power far exceeds the pentium D at 4530 vs 739. So yeah it should run fine.

Okay I looked into it. A f2p RTS with a paywall and mtx.

No. This is not what I want for StarCraft. I don’t want that for any game.

A starcraft mobile game would be pretty interesting for sure. I’d at least give it a shot. If anyone can make it happen, blizzard can.

It would have to either be very small scale or an auto battler kind of deal but it could work.

That’s called Clash of the Clans and it makes 10x as much money as Starcraft. Why hasn’t Blizzard already expanded into this market? Hard to say, but existing games might hold patents.

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You can’t patent a genre nor generic system concepts like “auto battler”. Nothing would prevent ActiBlizzard from making a mobile auto battler roguelite deck building survival crafting turn based sandbox simulation game w/ a StarCraft logo slapped onto it. They either are not interested in doing that or don’t want to make more StarCraft entries.

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Reality check:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/19/arts/nintendo-pokemon-lawsuit-pocketpair-palworld.html

Patent law is so absurd that people patent random things and then sue anyone who might’ve infringed their patent. They are called patent trolls. Patent trolls are such a big issue, I dedicated 2 years of my life to developing a piece of software that finds new ways of computing answers to the same problem. This allows you to do the same thing a patented algorithm does but with the added benefit of making patent trolls frown when they realize they have to pay court fees when their case is thrown out.

I’ve been wanting to reapply this software towards solving problems in physics, such as the n body problem, but I haven’t found the time. Too busy making it rain.

The brilliant thing about this software is that you can do whatever you want, and if someone sues you, and they have a legitimate claim, you just run the software, find a new algorithm, and you’re good to go. There are so many patents out there that it’s impossible to plan ahead and avoid getting sued. As long as your software is high profile enough, you are guaranteed to be sued at some point. This software allows you to deal with the problem after the fact, which is why it’s so brilliant.

This is also why I hate tests that make you guess the next number in a sequence. It will give you a sequence like “1, 6, 9, 7, 4, 10” and you’re supposed to know what number is next. What’s insane about this is all all numbers are next. You can craft an an algorithm to output that pattern and then literally any other number could come next. In fact, you could find an infinite number of algorithms for each possible outcome. It’s the definition of an unsolvable problem. How on Earth are you supposed to know which equation the authors of the test had in mind when they made the test.

A good example of this a F(x,A)=A / (abs(x - A) + 1)^1000000. As X approaches A, the value will be A. For any other value, it will be zero. Now, if you want to construct an equation to make the pattern I mentioned previously then you simply sum this function:

y = F(x, 1) + F(x, 6) + F(X, 9) … etc

You can now make the final number in the sequence be literally any number. This leads us into the nonsense that are climate change models. The reason you can never know what the next number in the sequence is is because this is data extrapolation. Without knowing the exact underlying algorithm, you are assuming you’ve correctly identified the process that produces this output. The probability of identifying the correct process is near zero, since there are an infinite number of equations that can output this pattern. For this reason, an algorithm outputting a pattern is absolutely useless UNLESS your algorithm derives the answers from first order principles, meaning the process is well understood & known to be correct. If the model doesn’t use first order principles, it’s nothing more than a glorified extrapolation algorithm which means it basically assumes it is correct. Do climate models use first order principles. Nope. They don’t. It’s impossible to simulate Earth’s oceans & atmospheres down to the atomic level, which is what is required to simulate the climate from first order principles. Because of this, we know that climate models are just really complex assumptions. If they are assumptions, then the assumptions should change & there should be disagreement in the models. Is there? You betcha:

https://i.imgur.com/Ql4tThd.png

LOL not a single model got 2024 nor 2023 right. They are just making stuff up. It’s obviously a religious process because this isn’t scientific in the least. They are writing scripture, not doing science. Instead of Moses seeing a burning bush, climate scientist Joe sees +2 degrees Celsius. They don’t understand that these systems are inherently impossible to predict on a fundamental level. Trying to predict the climate is like trying to see the future. If we could see the future, then I’d be rich because I’d correctly guess every stock trend and make a bazillion dollars. Why on Earth is this kind of religious thinking given the name of science. Nobody can see the future. If you think you can, you need meds and therapy.

A lot of patents are unenforceable and only squeak through because of crappy employees in the patent office.

It’s getting better though, Nintendo’s patent troll activities routinely get shut down in the US and EU.