This ability should be moved further down until a Zerg player has a Lair. As it stands a Zerg player can make 2 expansions right at the beginning of the game AND have more lings then a Protoss/Terran player can make zealots/marines.
Being able to pop out 7 drones/14 lings this early is why a Zerg economy is so OP and broken.
The ability should be moved further down so that taking an early expansion should be able to be punished.
If both players are playing standard macro, the Protoss player actually mines more and has more workers, until around 4:30 into the game, which is when the drones pop from a triple inject on three hatcheries, which just so happens to coincide with adept/oracle harass timings. As Protoss you are given the tools to harass and lower the drone count, or force out some Zerglings to limit the Zerg’s economy.
Protoss Early Expand: Can’t be punished because of two adepts between a pylon and the 3rd
Your suggestion: Zerg shouldn’t be allowed to even hold their natural if I do a 4 gate
Nope. Gitgud.
That is an utter crock of S*** and you know it…ever heard of this thing called a baneling bust followed by mass lings? If not I would suggest getting out of Silver and trying it.
@Zoro.
Queens are rampant by the time you get oracle’s and lings will Roflstomp any kind of adept harass you can throw at them so please try again.
If you disagree with me then please provide replays of you actually stopping Zerg with this combo (at Diamond level or higher).
Yeah baneling bust, the strat so easy to hold by knowing how to wall against it that no one does it on the professional level. So…take your own advice, and try getting out of silver. It’s really not hard to scout it’s coming, plant a cybercore behind the opening after shading your adept back, and defend. Once you do, it’s a free win. L2p.
Game 1, Reynor v MaxPax. MaxPax wins off of an adept push that does a lot of damage. But yeah totally useless strat.
Do you watch high level starcraft, ever?
Wow, please tell me WHERE in that game there was a baneling bust? So it’s obvious you’re a troll who didn’t finish grade school since I CLEARLY stated that a baneling bust beats wall-in strats and there is NOTHING in that first game of a baneling bust in any way. All I saw was Reynor attempting to go roaches and failing since Max basically committed to adepts.
Try again please or better yet actually provide replays of yourself…oh wait you can’t because you have no games played and are clearly a troll…moving on.
Lol so you don’t remember your own quotes
It’s okay, no one thought you could read. Thank you for demonstrating it. I literally quoted that before the video that met the criteria, a Professional level protoss stopping a zerg with adepts. I guess there really is no fixing stupid =/ shame to see you bring yourself as the living evidence
Again, wow…you are a special kind of stupid…please explain to me and everyone else how that first game was an ACTUAL adept harass and not an all-in??
He stopped making probes and just kept making adepts…that does NOT classify as a harass…idiot.
Ah yes, a 10+ minute game that ends with immortal stalker against roach ravager. That is definitely an adept all-in. You are very smart.
It’s okay, moving the goalpost is a fallacy that many people employ when they’re proven entirely wrong but can’t admit it because their fragile ego can’t handle the idea. Most often it’s because they lead a pointless and empty life but I’m sure that doesn’t apply to you <3
You meet the nicest people in starcraft.
havnt posted / paid much attention to SC2 in awhile are zerg still massively OP but scrubs are just going to look at over-all records or such even after pros and commentators admit there OP as heck?
@ Thac0
People like OldWhovian are known trolls, him and Batman (aka Batz) make absurd posts which make absolutely no sense at all (although I am playing Terran now thanks to Batman).
I am making a suggestion to help balance the game since Zerg are OP as F*** and the reason is because they can expand so quickly with no consequences. The recent patch has made it even worse for Protoss as Lurkers are running even more rampant now since void rays got the cost increase. Now every game is just mass lurkers with hydra’s and some vipers making the games even more of a joke as Protoss.
As Terran you just need to properly micro widow mines and ghosts to be successful against banelings and send random dropships to expansions to harass in order to win, but Protoss have no chance whatsoever now.