Same as title.
Those things are weaponized to be just fine. Mutas were never bad.
I still want a Maru vs. Serral finals someday.
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That tends to happen when you nerf everything keeping them out of the meta. Some posters just donât play enough ladder games and just assume that nothing has changed all this time. Itâs also the fact that the onus is on the zerg player to make plays happen. They havenât been use to that since hydras were buffed into TvZ.
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Mutas are really good because 1) Thor splash AA was nerfed and 2) Serral is a better player than Innovation.
It was pretty surprising to see that every single time Serral did multi prong attacks Innovation instantly fell apart in minutes (or even seconds). Zergs have been defending drops successfully for years but the 2nd best Terran in the world canât counter a standard ling runby, or MutasâŚ
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ROFL.
Serral is really good, but not on the level of Inno or Maru.
Because zerg harss options are too good.
Not even because of units stats, but of how much current map pool favoures Zerg
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shots fired 20 char!
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Mutas are very good in general. Zerg players just want to pretend every zerg unit is sh!t and uuuultra hard to control.
Innovation was very very tired. how would you feel playing vs serral when you were awake for like 20 hours and play tournament at 0:00 when finals is at 07:00 ?
And maybe just maybe its a little bit harder to defend as terran or toss because you dont have creap spread or overlords? You see every harass coming and can react super quickly because all your units are very very mobile.
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at what, exactly? You say that, butâŚ
Killing off workers and distracting your opponent.
Yes. 700/700 to be able to one shot a worker is a good investment, that.
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Koreans were playing at a very bad hours,it was around 6:30-7:00 am in the morning for them,imagine playing against serral when you are thinking about going to bed asap.
This afternoon heromarine said he was disappointed because Innovation played really bad,doing wverything so out of timing he had no chance to win.
troll more? 20 char.
Heromarine died to the same things as Innovation with no sleep deprivation. Itâs almost like mutas are dominating the meta right now. All you need to do as Zerg is consistently threaten counter attacks so that terran leaves enough units at home. If they leave units at home your counter attack squad becomes a flank and you destroy terrans army easily.
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spire is 200/200 takes five mutas to one shot an scv each of them is 100/100
do you even play zerg?
oh and you have to get the spire up without your opponent scouting it and hope that they didnât decide to see how high they could get the TPM or build a basic unit like a marine or a queen and god forbid any archons be chillin wit da boyz
So yeah you want to whine about mutas? after all pro zerg players use mutas frequently?
do you think oracles are good? you invest 150 150 and another 150 150 for every oracle you get out. one oracle gets like 3 workers from zerg? if you are lucky. wow. gj mate. now you cant attack anymore because your attack is depleted and your oracle got red health. you actually dont count in that zerg has by far the best vision and therefore best defense with just queens spam with 8 aa range and luckily you got a queen minimum at every base.
every pro uses mutalisk and ultralisk frequently. zerg whiners: mutalisk and ultralisk are bad.
only at d1 because i dont care and i actually play ling bling muta.
look at this pleb who doesnât play zerg lol
That was a real good counter argument. so, every zerg pro player uses muta because? because they want to show off how good they are by purposely building the worst units they can? ok.
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I havenât made any counter arguments. I asked you a question. I donât think theyâre generally good. That doesnât make them bad. Theyâre expensive and easily countered.
along with roach ravager ling bane hydra viper queen drone corruptor! I see your pointâŚ
so? yeah my answer is yes. i said they are used to kill off workers and distract opponents. maybe catch drops offguard. like. you. see. in. pro. matches. so what exactly is your problem? why do you ask this stupid question with 500/500 mutas are needed for one shotting workers. yeah so? why is that important at all? if you look at pro matches. mutas do hella lot of dmg.
so yes. they are good at what i was saying that there were good at.
btw âgenerally goodâ was meant for every zerg pro can handle them not just serral. because the initial argument was about serral were doing it. it is generally (for everyone) a good unit but that doesnt mean its an all round unit.
Mutas are perfectly fine and are used often in all 3 matchups, as any other Zerg strategy.
Zerg players complaining of Mutas being too weak in these forums are probably Platinum and have 0 clue of what they are talking about. If Mutas were better in direct engagements they would be absolutely broken.
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didnt watch heromarine,but i saw innovation playing against mutas without turrets. If terran are losing to mutas its because they forgot the unit exist.I have seen several times pros losing workers at minute 9-10 because they had not built a single turren,and from there the mutas just roam around the bases while the terran try to chase them.