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He’s joking, right? Yeah, he’s joking. You can relax Protoss players. He’s totally joking. There is no realism in his statements whatsoever!
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Brood War is the most balanced game Blizzard ever made, and one of the most balanced RTS games in History.
I wish SC2 was as balanced as BW, but in it’s current state, SC2 is not bad.
Artosis complaining about BW Protoss is the very “sad coz bad” meme, incarnate.
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Artosis the ‘Protoss player’ everybody! xD
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It actually is incredibly imbalanced, in all ways, unless you’re Flash… Like anytime you lose P vs T, you just tip your hat to the other guy, and you’re like well… he’s really good isn’t he? Well done. When you lose T vs P… it’s like well, I’m only human… got me.
Toss can do just as much game ending stuff if you don’t scout it in BW, but there’s no reaper in BW, and there’s also a lot of 4 player maps. Have fun… Everything besides standard T vs P was a challenge/felt impossible, ironically. Does speak to how dumb/ignorant Toss players were, though…
Sometimes there’s truth in “baby rage.”
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Arty’s been scarred in BW since '01 when he sieged up on Day 9 too early and lost the game, and thus championship.
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Broodwar cannot be described as balanced. The two are polar opposite concepts. Like SC2, Apetoss utterly dominates the upper leagues. It’s so much easier to play that it makes even Artosis rage about balance.
How can Apetoss be the common denominator in two very different games? Average supply cost of units is higher. That means fewer units to manage. That means less APM is required. It’s that simple.
They need to make Apetoss micro/macro harder since it’s made easier by the fewer number of units that have to be built / managed. With fewer units, to have the same difficulty of micro you need each individual unit to be harder to control to compensate for the fewer units.
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Yea control the slow disruptors+ nova within indeed looks easy
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Broodwar isn’t even close to balanced and the only saving grace is that the UI sucks so much that it makes it really difficult to exploit the hell out of Broodwar’s totally imbalanced spells.
Blizzard has always sucked at balance.
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Exactly. And the fact that Broodwar is always revered as some pinnacle of balance shows how popular opinion is usually complete garbage.
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Or, hear me out, you just accept that players who choose Protoss, choose quality over quantity, and it is your fault you cannot compete against their more advanced problem solving skills.
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As a matter of fact Protoss is incredibly broken in Broodwar. The stats are there if you do a little bit of searching.
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Race selection happens long before players understand anything about the game. Race switching is rare due to the insane time investment required to change races. So what you are really saying is that Protoss have GOD-tier cognition and can understand in Platinum league the things 99.999% of players don’t understand in the first place. Nice math there buddy.
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No Camaro they aren’t. I don’t know what you guys are talking about, zerg and terran won all the tournaments in the pro scene for BW.
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You have said it yourself.
Protoss players are just people taht know better.
And no, most people will play around a bit will all 3 races, until they pick one, because almost no one just picks a race immediately, and sticks to it. You end up picking the one race you think fits you more.
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Until they pick Protoss or Terran in the majority of cases, that is.
I started playing the game without knowing anything about it,I chose Z because they were cool looking.Aesthetics for me its an important part,more than if the style fits or if its op/nerfed.I played only Z for several thousands of games until I statyed playimg with the others.
This is not how the majority of people play, however, specially not in Brood war, where the campaign races are exactly the same as in Melee.
Most people played all 3 races, at least 100 times each, and then decided on one when they seriously wanted to compete.
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You should tell that to playa, champ. Guy was so triggered about how imba protoss was in broodwar he had to play them. He’s probably played a total of 20 non protoss games… The same can be said for people like Artosis who then told people to choose protoss in sc2…
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Precisely! And considering that the majority are introduced in the game (SC1/BW) via campaign, they are introduced to Terran than Protoss and at the end Zerg.
It was in this way that in Sc1/BW i initially played …Terran.
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Lols. I was pretty triggered man. I always resented playing Terran. Do you know how insane it is to get 2450 MMR with what’s supposed to be your off race, winning matchups vs pro gamers, when… you have no idea what’s even going on?
The hate for Toss in BW, from a difficulty standpoint, is 100% warranted. What gets me is how Artosis could do well with Terran in BW, yet be so bad at SC 2 with Toss. Like, a lot of BW people fell into a trap by thinking Toss would result in an easier path. There’s no way in the world that incontrol or artosis wouldn’t have had far more success/higher rank if they stuck with their respective races in BW. Zero chance.
Toss has simply been trash, historically, in macro games in SC 2. Like if you’re not Neeb or Showtime tier, you may as well just all-in every game. Heck, even Showtime refused to macro vs Zerg until recently, despite that “being his love.”
But yeah, I haven’t played many non Toss games in SC 2. The game just isn’t interesting enough to really care/be curious enough.
I totally relate to the Terran’s being miffed thing, but… I’m really confused as to why they feel so held back. I guess everything is relative to what one knows. But, Toss is harder than it was in BW… and Terran is a lot easier, so it’s like I dunno. Toss has been the leading race for like 15’ish periods or something insanely stupid/impossible in the history of SC 2. Race has sucked. The game is just non stop propaganda, in all aspects. Sad, really.
Even Nony, one of the best non Korean BW Toss players ever, couldn’t even really do that well. Race is just straight up not solid enough.