Blizzard will never fix this. Just in case any fellow zergs are hoping one day you will be given options for core units again. You won’t, stop kidding yourself.
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According to Ace we need this riveting game play back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4avNx1WexM
Really hitting that bottle huh?
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Whats up with these whiney zergs lately?
Roach ravager seems to be very fine. Great for pushing the third base of protoss and maybe even win the game.
You should ask the 6 zergs in ro8 how they do it 
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Meanwhile most pro Zerg games recently: Roach ravager
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Nope. Not dead at all.
I see this a lot in gold/diamond 1v1 ladder.
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It definitely is notable when it’s not a Protoss or Terran creating a whine thread
By being far better players
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Statistically, this statement is VERY improbable.
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It is not dead at all, I keep seeing them on prolevel even on all 3 matchups.
In fact, Zerg is the only race that can make any unit comp viable on late game, even mass Ling Bane.
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Ah thats what the balance team said to protoss in gsl super tournament last year? oh wait they didnt.
But i get the notion: zerg wins 70% of premier=zerg players are very very much better than everyone else.
Protoss got a good round: these are a bunch of patchtosses.
dont you think that ace whines a little bit too much? just a little bit? that he cries about bc constantly ok. but this? 
even you should have your limits boy.
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Actually this is very possible statistically. Zerg’s across all levels haven’t been more successful, only the very top. So 2-3 players seeing more success isn’t an anomaly. If Zergs throughout GM and every round of tournaments were increasing representation then it would mean something but that’s not what’s happening.
And when you look at the RO8 at HSC Zerg players were wayyyy better. Anyone bringing up that RO8 is an idiot.
Stop this Potatoss abuse!!!
Very possible statistically? Are you fiddle fondling my sticks mate?!
Zerg’s across all levels haven’t been more successful for the same reason Protoss and Terran on almost all level but Pros has 50% winrate.
The game is designed that way mate. MMR is a thing, matchup is a thing. Blizz want you to have 50% winrate, regardless of your race, because all other players are bricks that doesn’t know how to have 300 apm and doesn’t even remember build order for each match up mate.
There’s a reason why they are at the pro scene ya?
STOP POTATOSS ABUSE.
Roaches are ridiculously good.
For cost I’d say roaches and marauders are pretty close as number 1 and number 2 most cost effective units, with marauders just edging them out.
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Roach/Ravager is dead. Good Job Blizzard. After repeated nerfs you’ve finally completely removed Roaches from competitive SC2 as they are hardly being made anymore regardless of the matchup. Even in ZvZ you never see roaches anymore, everyone just masses ling bane and then jumps straight to viper lurker. Buff Roaches!!! Buff Ravagers meme unit!!!
Would you agree?
You can win with Roach Ravager if you are a better player than your opponent. Zergs are for the most part better players.
I think I like where Roach Ravager is at right now, but it’s definitely not a long term composition, but it’s fine.
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What? Roach ravager is core in zvz, has a role in TvZ against mech. Sometimes used against bio for like timing pushes, and has a place in ZvP in the mid game. It’s far from dead.
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I really don’t know what Ace is Thinking. Saying Roach/Ravager is bad is just flat out wrong, especially when one knows whats going on in PvZ, where a T3 protoss army can be beaten by a T1 Zerg army.
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Roaches counter every protoss ground unit except immortals and disruptors. Yes, so weak for a 75/25 trash unit.
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And yes I know stalkers do bonus damage but will lose horribly if fought on equal spending amounts and have to run away and regain their shields for them to be cost effective but they do have a decent amount of health and are okay if immortals and zeals/adepts to tank are in the mix…pretty much forced to make them. I would say stalkers are not that great of a unit though past the 7 minute mark or so because to really get the most out of them it requires almost individual unit micro and the macro and army requirements past the mid-mid game are too much to really micro stalkers like crazy but yeah… blink disruptor is okay against bio or protoss as well (er, viable I should say).