Didn’t say it straight up, that was really subtle but saying “Clem should have won he played better” says a lot about the state of the game, Zerg is a race that even if you don’t have perfect mechanics, will carry you through because the economy and how you can throw units away for free is enough to make it through games where you should lose.
people who play better do lose from time to time. this does not mean his race is op.
how many times have we seen a terran lose most their eco but the power of mule lets them win a game?
That doesn’t mean you’re playing worse what?
better player could lose sometimes. but in fair game u never lose if u played better than opponent in current game
That is the problem you as a player do not have the ability to recognize that you played badly when you win. If you do not have that ability as long as you play well and lose you will think it is unfair
reynor said that clem played better. when player played better but lose - it is unfair
losing your entire economy but winning because you can make one of the cheapest, most cost effective armies in the game without having to remake your eco and winning isn’t playing worse?
how many games have terran won after getting their eco ravaged but winning due to mules?
then nerf the mule.
You’re talking about outcomes and not performance, of course that isn’t enough to judge a player’s performance.
First, who played “better” is subjective, so it can’t be taken as something absolute. If we define who played better as who won then raynor played better, no matter what he says. If we take as the game has a chance factor one could play better and lose
lol, imagine whining about Zerg after they get gutted in the latest patch
The only thing I consider op about zerg right now is how queens protect Zerg eco cheese so thoroughly. Queens might need a -1 to armor or a health nerf.
I think that’s the idea, because zerg without economy is worth nothing
There’s a difference between having no economy and taking 3 bases before 2 minutes and being relatively safe because you make queens non-stop.
There’s nothing wrong with Zerg taking that many bases. Though, maybe they’d take less if high level Terran players could kill enough drones that they’d never have enough drones to saturate that many bases early.
How do you kill drones as Protoss / Terran if the zerg can deflect everything with lings and queens ? Just asking for a friend not for myself ![]()
You can’t right now. If you’re below masters you can sit a banshee between bases and get a lot of kills though. It’s more that the issue isn’t with the speed of taking bases but with the queen.
Why should Terran and Protoss kill drones for free? A couple of buildings hold off any early game worker harass from Zerg, so what’s fair now?
“Quite happy about the result not too happy about my play in general I feel like Clem should have won the last game if he didn’t do a couple of big mistakes ggwp buddy you are gonna be great next year”
Reynor’s actual quote
Well, because without actual walls protoss and terran die to zerg just building zerglings wtf ? Zerg has the fastest scaling economy you have to slow it down to make it equal, if you fail in doing that you can pretty much type “GGWP” and queue another one.
so whiners quoted out of context. doesnt surprise me at all lol.
what about protoss? thx to chronoboost, worker production is equal for the first… 4 minutes or so. in addition, zerg HAS to have a better worker production, since you lose a drone for every building you make. also, like allrdy said in this thread, zerg doesnt benifit from walling like terran/toss.