This is dumb.
Terran has scan, for the cost of a mule, you get to see your opponent’s tech, production building, and many more, instantly. Not only that, Terran can see when an enemy is coming just for the cost of 100/100, in a range of 30, which is deffo enough time for terran army to move and defend the spot.
Zerg has static vision maphack that grows bigger for each moment the game goes on, not only that, they also get to freely scout in the beginning of the game with overlords against other Protoss and Zerg (If you are Terran, you should already have at least one marine to gun it down).
What does Protoss has? Pervy slow observer.
Literally stupid. The only race who is forced to probe scout every single game and can only scout reliably with hallucinated phoenix within the first 6 minutes, also has the worst possible scouting unit of the entire three race.
Observer has a speed of 2.63, gaining 1.3 for the cost of 100/100 FROM A ROBO BAY, A ROBO BAY. Are you seriously going to build a robo bay (150/150) for observers speed?! Say you are going to build robo bay, Zerg has overseers that cost 150/50 that has higher movement speed than observers, the scouting unit of the most blind race in the game.
RETURN OVSERVER SPEED
RETURN OBSERVEER SPEED
RETURN OBSERVER SPEED
STOP POTATOSS ABUSE
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The problem with the observer is by the time it gets across the map you’re being hit by the first Terran or Zerg aggression . On most maps the fast observer you can get to the Terran side is at about 420 or so and by then stuff is already hitting you. I also think the length of time for a robo bay to be built at 46 seconds is way too long for how critical a building it is in combination of how long it takes for colossus to be built at 54 seconds a pop (for reference thors take 43 seconds and cost the same and have the same position in the tech tree).
I really would like to see the robo bay build time dropped to like 36 seconds to help with scouting and with getting colossi out.
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Don’t forget Protoss has HALLUCINATIONS, God its faster than an observer ? and FREE ?! What is this broken spell ?! I hope the balance team nerfs them Hallucinations
I understand this game isn’t supposed to be symmetrical, but it is supposed to be balanced asymmetrically.
a unit that cost 50/100 can only scout every 90 seconds due to how energy regen works (0.8 / second I think), REQUIRES MICRO AND SKILL (woah, what this?! Protoss actually need skill?!?), just to scout the perimeter or the opponent base.
Protoss is the easiest race to harass for that simple reason, your units are forced to patrol everywhere just to have a comparably less blind perimeter.
Lol the only excuse they had for nerfing observer speed is that it sometimes got out of the range of scan before Terrans could kill it, what a stupid change.
These devs no longer know what they are doing at all, that’s why the state of the game is so bad right now.
Seriously did you see their adept change? And how they neutered the Zealot?
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To be honest, protoss scout is so bad many times I had to send an obs and an hallucination at the same time because the obs is too slow and by the time the hallu reaches enemy’s main, the obs is still at the middle of the map.
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have you heard of chronoboost sir
Lol obs get +25% vision and f2 doesn’t affect it and it is not enough for your ? 5 obs can cover all angles to your base… When did you last saw sensor tower against protoss ? Terran is behind in economy from start, no one does that. And scan doesn’t tell you anything half of the time, protoss can put that on cliff, or on unusual place. Also no one scans in early-midgame, because your economy would be slowed down too much…
Protoss is easiest race right now up to gm. Most gm players are protoss, worldwide 35% gm is tos and it used to be over 40% long time, before slight terran buff and protoss nerfs.
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Yeah, this was a really dumb nerf that ultimately did nothing and is a tell that the balance team just doesn’t know what they’re doing anymore - but it wasn’t the only tell. Remember the Adept change? The one that had to be reverted because it was so stupid and short sighted? Remember the wording for the balance patch reasoning? When your official Blizzard response reads like someone who doesn’t speak English as a native language got drunk and scribbled the notes on a cocktail napkin as the team went out for beers is…uhhh.
It’s a huge tell and imo it tells that the Blizzard balance team has lost the members who brought us the positive changes of the past and has either replaced with unqualified workers or haven’t replaced them at all, leading to an understaffed, junior team to handle something that needs senior members to oversee (not because their coding sucks but because their decisions are really weird and have caused balance issues).
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-Terran is ‘‘behind’’ in economy (but teching up)
-Terran does a BS build that kills 10-12 workers on the first 7 minutes of the game.If it does not kill that many workers, at least delay protoss.
-Protoss player had to have a sucessful scout,change the build,adapt, and even probably losing units in the end.
-Now terran is on the lead
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Well, to your surprise, not everyone is addicted to the F2 key unlike you.
If you weren’t addicted to the F2 key, you’d probably get better instead of saying observer speed nerf is good lmao.