Recommend a processor

Building a PC, am looking to take one of the Ryzen 7 range, as I’m also looking to stream.

Could anyone recommend what I take, and give reason WHY I should be looking at it?

Thanks guys.

Dont use amd. Starcraft 2 is all about single core performance, because it can’t utilize multicore. You need overclock at least above 4ghz otherwise you will have fps drops. Don’t use amd, amd suck for this, amd is good for multithreading… Also high speed ram matter a lot today times, since they can boost fps drastically, especially here, when gpu is bottlenecked, because game cannot utilize multicore cpu.
https:// linustechtips .com /main/topic/126223-haswell-benchmarks-show-that-high-speed-ram-gives-performance-boost-in-gaming/
Also 2080 geforce provides huge boost since 1080… You have to own top hardware to play this game barelly at 60 fps min on low. If it is even possible in some situations… Because how crap this engine is…

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If you’re streaming and playing sc2, I’d suggest at a bare minimum a 2700. A 3600 would be better though. A lot better. Don’t bother with a 3600x though, you can overclock manually for the same performance and save a good $50.

Don’t listen to anyone telling you that sc2 needs a good GPU, it doesn’t. Just about any budget GPU from the last 2, maybe 3 generations will be fine from AMD or Nvidia. Just don;t get anything lower than a 980 (970 is a rip off with it’s vram bs, if you can even find one and you won’t find older without running into risks of it being a half dead card).

we just went over this with someone else a week or two ago.

i stream with this build with no problems

AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Nvidia Gforce 1050 Ti
16gb DDR 4

and you’re looking to build something slightly better so no worries, just do whatever you should be fine.

Oof A Ryzen 5 1600. That’s got to have some drawbacks. 1st gen of Ryzen was not that great in terms of performance. It was only great in terms of budget.

I’d still recommend a 3600. Gives you comfortable overhead for additional programs. If that’s too expensive a 2700 then. That’ll still give you some overhead on a cheaper price tag.

But a Ryzen 5 1600…that almost makes me feel better for using my trashy R5 processor.

the reviews on this specific one were all insanely positive and i’ve had absolutely no problems running anything, i have no idea what you’re talking about.

A 1st gen Ryzen processor, at the time was still solidly behind Intel on all metrics. It was just cheaper which made it more appealing since the cost/performance ratio was reasonable compared to Intel’s price gouging.

I have a very, very hard time believing you have no issues with streaming and playing sc2. Let alone doing other things. You might not notice them but I suspect you have stutters and such. Sc2 is a CPU single core hog and a 1600 is not a very good for single core performance.

Used to do this stuff for a living a few years back.

let me just pull up some info for ya bud.

MD Ryzen 5 1600 Review Leak: $200 CPU Beats $350 Intel Core i7 -7700K. … Even more impressive is the Cinebench R15 rendering test, where the AMD CPU’s score of 1,123 is not just faster than the stock speed Core i7 -7700K, but it actually beat it when the Intel CPU was overclocked to 4.9GHz too

i’ll just leave this here.

Unless Steve, Linus or anyone of extreme repute can verify, I don’t believe reviews. I only trust professionals when it comes to statements about hardware.

lol, well i don’t know what to tell you bud, but i think it’s a fantastic processor, i’ve been using it for just over a year now and i’ve literally had 0 problems with it, i love my computer, even if it’s not the best it does everything i want perfectly.

all the reviews and tests done on it signal that it’s a very powerful processor. but you come in and say it’s bad … without ever using it? ok. i’ll totally believe you.

like my cpu usage during stream is usually like 5% lol.

Intel pentium 4

Thank me later

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Well, when someone does tech support for a living and deals with hardware quite a bit…yeah, chances are they know what they’re talking about. I’m happy it works for you and that’s great. Doesn’t mean it’s a good CPU. It’s just good for your specific configuration and need.

so the hundreds / thousands of reviews saying it’s by far the best budget CPU for gaming are all … wrong? k. you’re so smart.

Most people have no concept of hardware. So yeah, that’s entirely believable. Empirical data isn’t reliable. I’m not saying that the 1600 is so bad nobody should use it…I’m just saying that you probably have drawbacks as the 1600 is not modern or powerful and just don’t notice them. And hey, if it works for you, cool! You don’t need flagship products to play and stream sc2.

Starcraft can only run on 1 or 2 threads, meaning that even though most games are multi-threaded and can get benefits from having more cores (aka amd), single core performance is more important for Starcraft. You can get a 4 core Intel processor with high processor speed, and you would get the same or even worse performance on something like a 16 core threadripper with less stellar single core performance.

Was a Ryzen 7 2700X user and I’m confident to say its single thread performance is not good enough. When in some Co-op situations there were so many units and effects (e.g. call down the devolution construct on Oblivion Express at final train when the escort spawns) I literally got only 1 FPS. Now with a 3900X I barely dip below 15fps even with the most atrocious situation (Stukov + Stetmann mass infestors). With a Ryzen 7 3700X or 3800X you should expect within 5% single core performance loss.
But still, if you are looking for pure frame pushing performance and doesn’t care about anything at all, Intel’s Core i7-9700K and i9-9900K(S) still wins at this game. If you choose Intel processor then try to use NVIDIA’s graphics card (NVEnc) as streaming encoder rather than CPU x264 encoder. SC2 is not a graphics intensive game (except campaign cutscenes) and most modern mid-range GPUs are massive overkills for SC2 even at 4K. A GTX 1660 Super is more than enough to run SC2 at 4K Ultra everything and streaming in the same time.
If you include your budget for your entire setup I may be able to make better recommendations.

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I’ve started looking more closely at the Ryzen 5 3600, my budget is around $1500 NZD.

If you are going for single core performance, the 3600 is good, but the 9600k got a price reduction, and has a better single core performance score, but is worse at multi-threading. It’s about $25 more, but if you want the best performance for sc2 and don’t care about other games, get the 9600k.

Hi there
Im using core i3 9100F, everything is fine with above 100FPS early game, but dropped down alot from 100 to 35 FPS at late game,
Would be better if i switch to i5 9400F ?
Thanks

That is like $1000 USD. At your budget I would recommend Ryzen 5 3600 rather than 9700K as it is considerably more expensive and would probably compromise your other gaming experience as you need significant GPU downgrade to fit within your budget. 9700K is better but not to an extent to justify its almost 50% more price tag, even for SC2. 9600K is also an option if you can find a good deal and don’t care about multithreaded workloads. Still, for both options you may want to spend some of your budget on a fairly decent cooler if you want to overclock and squeeze a bit more performance, as AMD’s stock cooler is just adequate for stock settings and Intel does not have a bundled cooler for K-series processor.

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