This is going to be a long post exposing the type of poster Traction is. Let’s start with some earlier posts from this thread.
Says overall ladder numbers are meaningless without clarifying what “overall numbers” mean and proceeds right after to directly say that the “changes in representation” (which can mean the calculated changes in representation as a decimal number from ladder ironically) is useful.
What parts of ladder is a good metric? The win rates?
The representation?
No clarification whatsoever. As far as anyone is concerned this can be twisted to anything you want to fit your trolling nonsense.
Says games on aligulac are between GM and gold players…which is completely false. There are tons of games on aligulac between players of the same level. Note: with a normal poster you can probably assume what he means, but with this guy no, without taking his word for word literally just gives him infinite room for trolling.
“Tournament winner is clown logic.”
Tournament win rates is relevant to consider in racial balance if there are enough tournaments considered. But of course, you will say something like “you have reading comprehension issues” and add in assumptions to fit your claim if someone rebuts this.
And this is why you phrase all of your sentences in an unclear way, to
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Give yourself the possibility to change what you say to make yourself seem right and others wrong.
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To bait out a long response from posters so it gives you an easier time cherry picking specific parts of their posts to critique.
At least it is a good troll tactic against people inexperienced in debates because it gives you leeway to do several things in your favor. I had strong suspicion of this right from the start when you did the same to me and proceeded to act arrogant. At first, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and even apologized for assuming you are a troll. What a big mistake that was, you continued to be even more arrogant thinking you can apply the same tactics against me, but it didn’t work in your favor and that is why you blocked me because I saw through your nonsense. As evidence just read what you posted:
How ironic this statement is, when we actually dissect what you post and how you post against others, we can conclude that your method of posting is one of the most unreasonable ways you can post vs others. Like tehbatz said “The irony is almost palpable”.
First of all, what is “it” lmao. Also, you didn’t explain “It’s” relevance. Posting a page of aligulac and then saying “it’s obvious” is not an explanation (even if that is what you are referring to, you still couldn’t answer batz question regarding that).
Says “people incorrectly think” but does not explain how? Lmao what a joke this post is. If someone disagrees and explains their reasons against this post, you will just say “oh but I didn’t mean it like that” or “of course that is true, but that is not what I meant” or “you have reading comprehension” or “dude you proved my point for me, etc, etc blah blah, you failed to understand what I wrote, etc, etc” if their argument is logically sound. On the other hand, if someone disagrees and explains wrongly it would open him up for attack from you “What an idiotic post this is”, etc, etc. Either way you would come out unscathed, wouldn’t you? And that is exactly what you are trying to pull with your response towards me and BeserkerSword.
It is funny you say this to the both of us and yet you fail to quote any of the posts that would indicate this is remotely true. In fact, I’ve just shown and will show through the rest of this post by quoting you that your entire history of posts on this thread is made up of vague statements that are not logically sound in order to bait people. As far as I’m concerned you are a troll with a very fragile ego. This is also supported in the fact that you claimed to have a stats degree in your first response against me instead of just saying “hey I think you got the wrong person, I am not part of the PPP”.
Moreover, there is not an ounce of appreciation for others taking the time to pull up information for you (evidenced from the fact you don’t read what they wrote, you don’t bother looking up information yourself, you never thank them for their efforts and even claimed it is their job to explain themselves when you couldn’t do that in return) or humbleness (you continuously demand answers and cherry pick parts of other posters for clarification).
With BeserkerSword you wrote:
I’ll say this again. This statement is just logically false. Logically what if race selection in every league worked in the following manner:
1st player = Terran, 2nd player = Zerg, 3rd player = Protoss, 4th player = Terran, etc…
This is certainly not random and yet we can get close to 33.333…% for all three races (error off by mod 3, will decrease if the number of players is high). In fact, there are infinitely many ways to select races where you end up with 1:1:1 distribution between races.
The room here to twist this argument is great.
This is also not true at all as there are factors involved that can cause this change. You need to justify this 29% directly (i.e. for example showing numerically that it is an outlier) implies “race selection is an obvious bias” (which I don’t even know what you mean here because you haven’t explained what this bias is towards lmao). Also, in doing that you need to state all of your assumptions (show to some extent they are valid) which you haven’t done at all.
With such a vague statement, you can again just add any assumption you want like “Dude its obvious we need to assume this…” or “how do you not know that, obviously I mean”, etc to whatever response someone else provides you.
Luckily BeserkerSword probably saw through this bs and did not respond to this when you tried to bait him further.
It gets even better:
You did not ask him for the numbers at all. Go back and read your posts, not a single place you directly asked BatZ this. It only happened because you were backed into a corner and used “that why I asked for them” as an escape route, as per your troll tactics. Even then, BatZ was nice enough to answer your “question”. You didn’t say a word of thanks or showed any appreciation and continued with your baiting and trolling:
You also didn’t answer Batz’s earlier question:
and the reason you didn’t answer it is pretty obvious: because you cannot answer it without making it seem like you can’t back up your claims, so you left it there hoping that it will be forgotten.
In the end, this poster Traction needs to be treated as a troll. Otherwise, it will be a continuous circle of him picking at your response against his vague/bait statements that gives him absolute safety in debates, as he can fall back to his trolling tactics because he has setup the conversation to allow for this. He can simply add or subtract to his assumptions to make himself look right or if worst comes to worst, just pretend it doesn’t exist like with batz’s question and provide some bs reason on why this is ok.
If he somehow by miracle now accepts my stats challenge against him, it is too late, I can only conclude he found someone to answer it for him.
Edit: On a side note, Traction, you should just stop with the intellectual challenges, your actually quite alright sticking to your one line posts. Because you, batz and many others agree on the same issue that Protoss needs to be nerfed.