Protoss Carrier The God Hand Of SC2

Its called Flashback LE its from 9/9/2021 I cannot upload the replay sorry.

It is a 3v3 I am tier 3 upgrades, 200/200 maxed out void rays. I have 5-6 bases. I LOSE the game. To mass carriers. Now granted my allies sucked as usual. But it’s dumb a ss a move victory yet again. I have lost COUNTLESS games to the same boring turtling build. I do have the flux vanes upgrade as well and I focus fire the carriers down. Still lose. Furthermore they were down a guy and all I needed my allies to do was back me up a little bit against two guys going carriers. Allies always worthless.

Because of this game I am not going to play another game until Blizzard fixes this or until 2 months from now November 10th and when I come back next season I will be exclusively playing Versus AI mode, Co-op Mode, and Campaign only. Thank you Blizzard for completely ruining the only game I am passionate about. Im on LOA from work was going to grind ladder. Not anymore.Thats it thats all I have to say. I don’t care about anyone’s opinions either. Lost so many games because my allies were scrubs. And probably dropped two tiers in ladder for no freak ing reason. Blizzard your 5-10 minute map tracking squash matches are atrocious and this will cause the death of SC2.

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For one, team games are not meant to be balanced. For another, there’s only so much you can do if you are doing something like 1v3. I also doubt you are any good at the game at all considering you couldn’t even pick up a free team game master border when the game often gets glitched (nice 15 gold finish).

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Play zerg.

Mass queens only with infestors for microbial shroud, some lurkers and vipers, spread creep everywhere.

I guarantee your 20 apm allies massing carriers will win the game behind your queen march spamming transfuse (rapid fire) under shroud.

Lurkers and spores stop 99% of team players from advancing on the ground because they a move into the lurkers and their detection moves over the spore forest.

It’s actually fun.

Plus you can delete all enemy void rays with the vipers in 2 seconds. 99% of team protoss players don’t even know what parasitic bomb is.

While I watch all the apetoss fighting each in the air, the game ends when my 200/200 queen knocks on the door. LOL

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ok thank you for providing a real response unlike TrollageKings above you. The moron who has 24 hours per day and 7 days per week to commit to SC2 and trolls literally every thread on the forums. WAY too many PPP responses.

Yes but I dont do a spore forest. But usually at my natural and third I will put four or five spore crawlers just to be safe. Had a 2v2 the other day where my ally was brand new and had no clue what to do. I massed Mutalisks and Corruptors against two lazy air protoss players. I actually managed to kill off a lot of their carriers but because my ally didnt help at all I took a lot of losses each time I engaged all of the protoss air units. Eventually I couldnt keep up with the carrier spam and got overwhelmed. But I have had so many unjustified losses like that where I overcompensate for my noob allies but eventually cant keep up with apetoss and lose. Unless I’m fighting a trolling smurf like our beloved TrollageKings above.

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College is not trolling but actually explaining you why team isn’t balanced. The goal of sc II was to be an e-sport in 1v1 where at the very top everything is balanced. Even small things like the number of starting drones/probes/scv’s can shift a the meta. Imagine what adding a player can do.

Furthermore if you are maxed out on voidrays vs max carriers you are in a bad spot. You should have transistioned to something like archons & tempests instead of only building voidrays. That way you can kite the carriers with your tempests and use the archons for dealing splash to their interceptors instead of just building one unit to complain afterwards it doesn’t win you the game.

It seems to me it was more of a dumb loss where you a-moved and prismatic alignemented your VR into a defeatscreen and where you got nobody but yourself to blame it onto. Carriers have nothing to do with this: game-understanding does.

Also in team it’s better to play with some fiends you know since communication is a skill that comes into play here: a skill you seem to be missing a bit, if I read your responses to other players trying to help you. The better you know the friends you are playing with, the more fluently you will be able to handle teams that play 2v2 or 3v3 instead of " I’m playing in a 2v2/3v3 but I’m doing it my way till i hit the highway ".

In you second post you start by typing:

And then you add:

Riddle me this: If you get matched with a new player who has no clue on what to do, and you’re basically playing a 1v2, how is it the fault of carriers that you lose. It’s not College that is trolling here. It’s you desperately searching for an excuse why carriers are ‘OP’, while they are frankly quite easy to deal with: you only have to build the hardcounter since it’s like you said mass-carrier only.

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well people like you are why the community is as toxic as it is…do you ever think experience means anything perhaps more than whatever stupid league you’re put into??? Ive played Starcraft since 1999 beat all of the campaigns in both games without any cheats. Played melee, FFA, team, co-op literally everything…and yet I’m always told “you know nothing about the game” smh…I used to even play against my friends and local competitors over a LAN line back in the '90s - early 2000s…

My MMR dropped for no reason. It was usually because my allies were new and my opponents were smurfs. I’ve actually got a buddy in game who is from South Korea he’s like 19 years old and he is in master’s league. But even he seems to not want to play anymore…he came here because in his country there arent enough people playing for 4v4s.

You have a point maybe it shouldn’t have been just mass void rays. I figured with being maxed out and tier 3 upgrades I might have a chance. I don’t have all of the answers against units like the carrier and tempest because of how overpowered both of the units are. Often times as protoss I will add in my own carriers but most times to counter carriers I make a combination of some void rays and some phoenixes…because phoenixes can micro them down a bit better. With terran the only viable counter I have found is turrets, vikings, mines, and BCs…you need literally ALL of those to satnd a chance against the almighty carrier. And zerg is similar spore crawler, corruptor and mutalisk. But as I was saying before youre gonna take losses as zerg so you have to keep kiting, retreat, build more units, then come back and fight the carriers…its exhausting.

Dude, I especially checked your profile online now to verify it. You beat all of the campaigns on normal (not even hard/brutal). Now I don’t want to be rude, but beating the campaigns on normal doesn’t give you any credit, nor does it provide you with any knowledge about this game. It has nothing do to with ladder whatsoever and playing it at that difficulty you can probably beat it playing with your feet after having emptied a bottle of skotch.

So let’s get into your ladder statistics…

Currently your MMR is 1835 in 1v1. You are stuck in silverleague in 1v1 2v2 ,3v3 and 4v4, playing 10 1v1 games in the last week and 34 1v1 games in the last month at 50-60 APM. What’s really astonishing is that you managed to produce more forumposts complaining then you played games.

If those data imply anything, they tell you you should be very very modest about your ‘starcraftknowledge’ and certainly would be better off not pretending you know everything about it or calling other people trolls/ toxic when they point out why you are stuck or why you struggle. It has nothing to do with being toxic, it’s just putting reality in your face, even if it may be harsh.

You have no finishes in ladder in LoTv and the last finish you head apart from this season dates back to HOTS in 2017 where you were silver as well.

If he has 1-2 times a masterfinish it’s probably because of the portraitbug. I would be very surprised if he wouldn’t be albe to hardcarry you in 2v2, 3v3 or 4v4 if he’s real masters MMR until at least diamond league , because that’s just how much the difference is between a legit master in sc and a silver/gold-league player.

I’m afraid you are wrong again: against mass carrier the only units you need as a terran are vikings, and ravens (and maybe some cyclones to style). You spam the interference matrixes with the ravens on the carriers and it’s byebye carriers because they transform into a punchbag that doesn’t hit back while the vikings finish them off. I already said it in my first post. Seems to me it’s your game-knowledge that is to blame, not ‘the OP-carrier’.

Here is a last tip: if you want to get better at ladder, delete all of what you think is your knowledge about this game, google bronze to GM by vibe/ Pig/ winter/ … any starcraft pro that made a guide to it and apply what they say. you will end up in diamond at least. In the meanwhile please refrain from making posts that make you look bad.

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ok I want to start by mentioning NaughtyElf’s profile shows that he has 10 points, 0 games, 0 finishes…now let’s continue

I am subscribed to Winter on youtube…there’s an Angry Coach he did where all he did is belittle his viewers who are paid subscribers…I like Winter but hes an absolute scum bag…and a smurf…not surprised he’s your hero at all.

My friend is from South Korea. He’s 4.5KMMR or so in both 3v3 and 4v4…he’s probably higher tier than whatever the hell you are on whatever other account you play…and yet even he gets roflstomped by carriers on a regular basis…and Ive seen smurfs diamond/masters profile in 3v3s and 4v4s also getting roflstomped by carriers…maybe I dont know all the solutions to carriers but neither do your colleagues in whatever god level league you think you belong in.

I played custom campaigns and the regular campaigns on SC2 but the SC1 campaign missions are much harder. The difference between normal/hard on campaign is really more of a hotkey/speed difference than an actual skill difference. You just have to play faster. I don’t use hotkeys…havent figured them out yet. But I have beat most of the missions on hard and I have played through the campaigns several times. I do believe players like you who are fast with a few cheap strats to use would struggle a lot with the SC1 campaign as it is more strategic and less speed based.

My last LOTV ladder finish was two seasons ago numb nuts. LOL. You can’t even read my profile correctly maybe get your eyesight checked??? I do ladder every other season and every other season I do casuals (Versus AI, campaign, co-op etc…). Its mostly because I have a full time job that is hard physical labor…and normally I can only play this game 2 days per week. Which is still more than CollegeWings currently plays. You guys are such hypocrites it’s actually insane.

Yeah I have a job I cant roll out of bed and do conference calls for work like you do …I actually have to show up and do hard physical labor so I can spam 200 1v1 games per day like an autistic child. How weird I must be??? Nah you’re weird bud not me. I also have a girlfriend which I highly doubt you do.

Why do You always suspect others to use cheap tricks while all You do in 1v1 is cheese? I bet You cheese in teamgames too. You are such a hypocrite.

This is the most Pathetic thing i have read on this Forum and tops everything batzy writes.

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I play only 1-1 but tempests against carrers are the basic counter (Altouhg in 1-1 its equally viable to just play aggresively denying your opponent the opportunity to build carrers, maybe in team games its impossible, no idea) .

Yeah Winter is “specific” but Harstem, Vibe, Pig all are friendly and got plenty of guides.
Bragging about your work and girlfriend sounds abit pathetic and deosnt matter one bit. What you do besides playing sc2 is irrellevent, we are talkign here about SC2. And yeah you seem to have some fuzzy knowledge , specvially about Lotv units, I would reccomend not getting all upset but brushing up that knolwedge you dont need to invest that much time in that, its just how you spend the time that matters. You can play 100 games and learn little, or spend same time reading up, watching, then playing 10 games and watching your replays and getting 2 times as good in the process. IF you dont want to put in the effort and just play for pure effortless fun its tottaly fine, but then you cant feel bad when poeple say you need to learn some more.

Not using hotkeys… is your choice, but in 1-1 you wont go above gold with that.Its an RTS game after all. Also speed aside, hotkeys change the way you play, because you can focus on things that matter, not think about what to click

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SC2 is terrible for team games both from a balance standpoint and a spectator standpoint.

It’s interesting because I feel SC2 is on par with other S tier RTS games like Warcraft 3 and Age of Empires 2 in 1 v 1 play.

But SC2 is way worse than those titles in terms of team play.

Carriers are utterly broken in Team Games but Team balance itself is broken.

Out of curiosity, i never played team games, how is is the carrer more op then battlecruiers there?

Its SC2 lol…Im not bragging so much as just highlighting the brutally obvious fact that 20 years is longer than any of you have been alive and I actually have a life outside this game…whereas I can tell from the match history of most of you guys that you literally do not have a job, girlfriend, or anything else that could take up your time besides SC2 (yes, even including sleep)…I cant play nauseastingly for hours upon hours upon hours not even breaking to sleep or eat like you trolls do. But then you also act like its “so cool” to completely waste every moment of your life on this game. And also learning hotkeys is an OPTION. Not everyone has to do it and I can list off about 50 people on my friends list in game who don’t know hotkeys and have for a fact quit this game. I can screenshot it if you guys want. It’s like if whistleblowing is the truth don’t matter I still get banned and you all get thumbed up…it’s more political than it is factual. You guys are every bit as stubborn and hardcore as Blizzard is about ruining the experience for every newer less experienced player out there. The elitist BS will be the death of RTS forever.

Sure it is.

Choices are bound with consequences. Not learning and using hotkeys costs to the morons (that make this choice) one or maybe two Leagues.
A 100 APM guy that uses hotkeys and Control-group is equivalent in effectivity with a 250 APM moron that works with mouse.

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I love how you’re conflating learning the hotkeys of a video game with no-lifing it. Learning the controls of a game is literally the bottom rung of learning a game. If you can’t manage that, you really should just uninstall and accept that gaming isn’t for you.

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“the controls of the game”

LOL
ok so now you all want me to list thousands of people’s names which I don’t even have time to do. The game was overwhelmingly not using hotkeys as of 1998 and going forward and even in SC2 up until 2015/2016 or so…at least by casual players. All hotkeys is is a spam troll trend heralded by Reynor, Serral and others who adjust their keyboard setting to spam APM like crazy. And you guys have yet to refute the argument of speed = skill…which is true for LOTV ONLY. Previous versions of the game didnt require hotkeys to be good. What I’m saying is skill comes from EXPERIENCE not hotkeys…you all are too brainwashed by your streamer overlords Lowko and Winter.

“controls of the game” hahah here I am controlling the game with the mouse and not a single key. Oops.

oh and one more thing. I guess the new rule of the forums (now that Blizzard has let chaos run wild) is if a person is popular or part of some group faction they get thumbs up. So your comment might be true - no thumbs up. But if you’re popular you lie about everything like all of you have - and get thumbed up. So we highlight stupid comments on the forums and encourage stupidity in others. Ok good noted.

Have you ever stopped and thought for a second that you are the dumb person? Just stop going crazy for a second and do some serious self-reflecting.

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Lmao,that reminds me when I was playing games when I was a kid 30 years ago, mouseclicking everything and not having a clue about the games,like getting one single building of each type,and maxing in two hours.

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