Protoss Campaign- power underwhelming

Looking back, it felt so rushed. I cant force myself to replay it… I dont care about achievements from it or Hots at all really. I can play the crap out of Wol , it just "plays better " for me, and I played Protoss since SC1/ BW. So many better stories in the previous game…

The cinematic of 7 battlecruisers disabling the SOA… had me rofling… its like 7 rebel assault runners,( the one thats fleeing from a regular star destroyer in episode IV )from Star Wars taking down The emperors flag ship “Eclipse” from Dark Empire comic…

why am i forced to choose between a carrier, tempest, or mothership?

HT or DA? why not both?

stalker, adept , or dragoon? you can make 2 out of 3 in regular multiplayer…

The whole SHTICK of the toss campaigns was supposed to be about all factions coming together, and instead we just got bits and pieces.

both T and Z campaigns never felt so limiting…

Terran campaign was a whole lot more limited but in a different way. Don’t get me wrong, if I had the chance, I would’ve played with the three Immortal variants only.

To me LotV was a letdown on so many different levels.

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At least you have some reason to choose different techs.

As much as I love WoL, some choices in Lab, Armory or even units are useless.

NCO FOR THE WIN.

For me, I really hate that they group the mothership in with capital ship. Capital ship is not a mothership class! Just spilt them and give us three more choice!

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True having three different mothership choices would have been awesome. I would have gone for a Khala, Purifier and Taldarim version since it doesn’t look like the Nerazim style.

Same with rolling the arbiter with the void ray could have been its own category as airborn support unit. Would have meant a few missions but that would have helped the game as well.

Well, Motherships are capital ships, just like Carriers. I wouldn’t put them in the same category, but they are.

Motherships aren’t a ship of the line though so it doesn’t make sense to put them into the same category as carriers.

Ship of the line? What’s that?

The term comes from the 17th century and stands for the main warship used aka the backbone of the hole fleet. Protoss carriers would be the main combat vessel in the same vain that the Minotaur is for the terrans. The mothership holds more of a flaggship role which you wouldn’t see without at least some line ships aka carriers to support it.

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But Motherships are still capital ships. It’s a role in the fleet. Semantics.

Edit: If there’s a ship from the three that doesn’t fit in, it is the Tempest.

A mothership wont serve the same role in the fleet as the carrier and tempest. Both of which are in game designed to operate as a group and fight the enemy, while the mothership is a flagship role something you can’t rely deploy without other capital ships around.

A Mothership is able to defeat a lot of different threats on its own, is it not? I am talking about fleets of Battlecruisers for example.

Tempests are long ranged support ships, they should not be considered capital ships but Motherships, Supercarriers and Carriers all fit the bill. They are capable on their own, if they fall probably the rest of the fleet will fall as well, they can house smaller ships, etc. In fact Motherships fit the bill the most.

Yes a Mothership is capable of defeating a lot of threats, but it is also not deployed on its own but within a larger fleet, unlike the carrier which is designed to operate independently when needed and makes up the bulk of the fleet.

Yes both the tempest and the mothership are not what I would consider ships of the line. The tempest being more of the typical sci-fi destroyer aka single target annihilator and the mothership taking a role as a superbattleship to empower the fleet further.

You could probably move the tempest in with the void ray instead of the arbiter but that doesn’t change the fact that the mothership shouldn’t be in the same class as the carrier.

I read up quickly what this ship of the line of yours is, and checked out how different sources define a capital ship. Motherships fit the bill of a capital ship, same as Carriers, there’s no working around it.

I wouldn’t put them in the same bracket with the Tempest as that ship does not fit there (and because I’d like to have Motherships and other capital ships at the same time).

It seems like we don’t really disagree over whether it fits the definition or not, or if it should be in the same bracket as the Carrier, so not sure what’s up.

I mean if the toss use logic, they would’ve use psi rifles instead of psi blades.

That would be the case for most units which wouldn’t make sense irl even if you handwaved the tech problems but I think the worst offenders are the terran transforming vehicles instead of just having dedicated vehicles for both.

Yeah, but Vikings are too cool.

But on the ground they are discount goliaths which can’t even shoot air.

Did somebody say Goliaths? Man, Vikings are disgusting for removing such a unit.

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Their assault mode is for assault. Surprising enemy’s butt.