Using the methods discussed by Vibe in his Bronze to GM series for Protoss.
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https://sc2replaystats.com/account/replays/27742/0/356145/1v1/AutoMM/44/
Using the methods discussed by Vibe in his Bronze to GM series for Protoss.
Posted without comment. I’ll continue to add replays as they happen.
https://sc2replaystats.com/account/replays/27742/0/356145/1v1/AutoMM/44/
Initial impressions for Bronze to Silver. Doing well PvP and PvT with a 75% and 60% respectively. PvZ is pretty bad with a 25% win rate.
Then more you up then worse all will be
Not following ya. Whatcha talking about?
Up on dia or master then i gonna watch it
That’s up to you.
I get master 2 days back but thx zvp only all ins happen
I’m not sure what that means in the context of this post.
It means theyre bad at english.
I think what theyre saying is that they just recently got masters, and that in their experience in ZvP the only thing that happens is all ins, presumably with the insinuation that the matchup is imbalanced. it is not clear based on context which side is all-inning.
Thanks for the transition.
translation* hehehe s
I follow some of his builds… he actullay stays with mech in TvZ and TvT deviating some times. but in TvP even though he prefers mech. the higher up he got he more he used bio.
He says that the TvP mech build is out dated. once you start ranking up in diamond. I wonder will he update it or save it for the end of year. The build is over 6 months old now.
Yeah, It’s quite old, and one of my friends who’s been following the build has hit a plateau with Vibe’s mech build in Plat 1 (he’s an M2 Protoss). Specifically in TvP, he’s been struggling a lot to deal with mech because:
“The majority of diamond players are generally able to counter and macro well enough, and that Vibe’s Mech builds are well known enough and have enough drawbacks that, in TvP, are just to numerous to really use outside of niche situations” according to him.
Which is surprising to me because I actually thought he’d get further than he did with it, but his TvP win rate is abysmal right now.
The only way to make it work once you get to diamond/platinum one is to mix in ghost and tank or libs My plateau with the build is just outside of D2. however, ive been playing a lot more Bio lately. it feels wrong but bio is the way appartently. but bio sucks. you have storms. collusus and nova blast to worry about.
I guess the goal is to get them before they get that tech find a way to delay that tech. or one you know which splash you are playing against get the appropriate counter I/e coloussus get Vikings. or storm get ghost… and go form there.
the problem with mech is that P gets to take the map and they will just spam Zs and Zs are a hard counter to mech
It doesn’t suck, it just requires a very different playstyle, and straight up engaging often requires a different set of thinking than Mech playstyles do.
However, having both playstyles in your repertoire will greatly enhance your capabilities as a player too!
But you can definitely field a late-game army vs Protoss. I’ve done it numerous times; it takes a good bit of control to do, but it is doable. Much harder when you’re behind though.
And you still need a turret ring as well, to deter warp prisms from just jumping into your base - just like mech, a warp-in in your base will still end you very easily if you’re on the other side of the map.
I think for me, the biggest problem that I’ve encountered in a Late-game TvP situation with bio specifically is the Blink DTs. They’re crazy mobile and have a huge damage output (60 damage per attack at +3!). When you’re facing a late-game protoss, having them warp in 6-7 DTs at a location and having them blink in and nuke a base is really really hard to deal with. Not impossible, mind you, but very, very hard. In saying that, I don’t see a lot of protoss players do that these days. There seems to be a perception that “DTs are weak units” or “bad” units" in the lategame when everyone has detection. It’s simply not true, but they’re certainly require a bit more knowledge of when and where to use them.
Me mechanic, he know what me mean when me say “car no go”, and we best friends. So me think: why use lot word when few word do trick?
Added a few more replays.
Just hit Gold 3. The win rate for PvP is 83%. For PvT it’s 50%. For PvZ it’s also 50%. Versus all I have a win rate of 61%.
Macro still needs some work. I’m getting distracted by weird things like Lurkers or Carriers that require my attention but I am getting better at mostly just sticking to managing my bases and letting the army do it’s thing.
Almost at the same rank as my Terran ladder.
way 2 get 2 gm from bormze as protons is 2 change race from terran
For protoss I don’t know where the wall is because he uses stalkers ( which is really really really) good and immortals
For terran the wall is D2
I am thinking of trying the build again as well… But I will probably havet to start at diamond