People making $$$$$ off custom maps

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Speaking as a map developer (no, my map does not use monetization)… I cannot believe this is even a topic of conversation. Nobody is harmed from having optional content locked by money. OP and a few other of you guys sound like trolls, or children, or maybe 20s who are very entitled. I implore you to open the editor, and even try to piece together some custom units or your own campaign mission. You do not understand the hundreds, or thousands, of hours that go into that type of endeavor - all so you can enjoy it for free.

A) But Blizzard did 99% of the work by making editor: Yeah, and it was included with buying the game. When SC2 was made free, so was editor. This comment is also from the type of person who doesn’t understand opportunity cost, probably a kid.

B) I should have access to all the content!!: That’s up to the map maker, and if you don’t like it, you can play something else, or make your own map! You have so many options!

C) These people are hurting me!: No they aren’t, please go see a counselor.

D) Only Tya and that other map nobody plays should be along to make money off their maps!: I would argue it’s really sad that you would choose to side with a multi-billion $ corporation that gets to pick and choose who can make a few bucks with their hobby and who can’t. It’s literally that, most maps would never even see 50$ a month, this is fighting over scraps.

E) Content should only be cosmetic and not lock gameplay: Actually I agree here, but the map-maker has the right t do whatever they want. It’s not immoral to lock content, just as most content in games is locked behind time or effort or skill anyway.

As a map maker, this type of conversation literally makes me want to leave SC2 for Dota 2, maybe unreal engine. Players, if you want actually fun maps to play, grow up, don’t abuse your map makers, or you are going to be playing nexus wars still in 10 years after it hasn’t seen an update in 15.

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Its not up the map maker in fact. You specifically agreed that you didnt have the right to that decision when you used Blizzard’s stuff.

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Monetization really discourages me to continue making maps with wc3 or sc2, why? Because there is greater risk that someone else steals my map entirely or parts of its content, ideas, triggers mechanics and so forth and then on top of that making itself a money with my work… It works only with free sharing principles that I am able to loan some ideas from other map and they are able to maybe take some ideas from mine.

There is no proper map protection first of all to lock maps to their original creators. You can literally find hundreds of maps online and change the title to claim its ur map without making anything for the map and then try to monetize it. Thats so wrong I dont even have words to describe that. To prevent that abuse we can only prohibit monetization of all maps… Or only allow blizzard to decide which maps can be monetized by double checking the identity of map creator with all back up evidence that he actually created the map from the ground…

Would you guys want to play forexample tower defence in the future where its the copied map but somebody just put tower behind pay wall or something like that… No… :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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but wouldn’t the base TD still be free? I’m pretty sure my friends already pay for phone tds and that autochess game that was big for two weeks.

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Man the evolution of TFT was freaking hilarious because it once again showed that riot has zero idea how to properly balance their games. Chief example of this was locket, an item that originally granted surrounding allies a shield at the start of combat. Already this granted more hp than warmogs and could be split among allies, letting more of your dudes cast their spell with the only drawback being team placement. They took 2 weeks before they fixed this, even though me and my friend group were abusing massing this item every game all the way up to d1, and multiple streamers we came across instantly started adapting the strategy. So then they nerfed it so all shielded allies had to be in a line, further limiting team placement but at the same time buffing shield value by 50%… As you’d expect mass lockets was still S tier. They later hotfixed their shield value buff. Then another few weeks and they finally put a time limit on the shield, which was enough to reign it in… but then they start buffing it again, from 4 seconds to 6 seconds, to 8 seconds, and with a bigger shield. It was already close to the strength of the original, and the only reason it wasn’t fixed earlier was because riot kept artificially resetting the meta every few months, only recently have they realized just how busted this item still is…

Like tft and other auto chess games are supposed to be about strategically predicting what is going to happen, yet the fact that it took the riot devs weeks after release to realize how busted this item is when me and my friends figured it out on day 1 show they have 0 clue what they’re doing in regards to balance. I like to sh1t talk blizz a lot for their balance decisions, but riot’s balance decisions are like another level of retardation.

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Mate you remind me of the kids in school who would remind the teacher if he/she forgot to assign homework that day.

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If you dont think making agreements and being held to them is relevant, boy are you in for an unpleasant surprise when you enter into the adult world then.

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just because you think you put a little effort into a map that Blizzard already did 90% of the work , you think you’re entitled to everything

Man, you remind me of those spoiled brats

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Imagine seeing a person dump 2000 hours into something for you to enjoy, to believe you are entitled to that for free and they deserve nothing for their effort.

Get help.

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In what universe just because you put a little inefficient effort into something that nobody asks for, you’re entitled to anything?

And again, Blizzard already did 90% of the work, please don’t think just because you put in 2000 hours, it somehow justifies you did more than 10% of the work

Not to mention, Blizzard provides a platform for you to promote your game (although its extremely small, but hey, its better than nothing).

If you wanna make a buck from your game, go make it using Unreal, unity, or make your own engine.
No one is forcing you to use the galaxy editor

get a grip please

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No is forcing you to buy anything on the arcade.

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Yes, an average year of working a 40-hour job also comes out to about 2000 hours.

Yes, blizzard did 90% of the work, and they make 99.995% of the money.

I do 10% of the work, and I’m not allowed to make 0.005% of the money?

You have literally never worked a day in your life. I cannot believe someone can be this stupid. No, there’s actually no way. This has to be a troll.

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you’re too stupid to NOT realize

A. making a map =/= working a job.

A2. I don’t know how you can correlate making a map and working, because there’s no contract/anyone involved (except yourself). A normal person with ~80 IQ can understand that, you should have your IQ checked.

B. Again, In what universe just because you put in 3000 hours with a little inefficient effort into something that nobody asks for , somehow you’re guaranteed you should have some reward/compensation/whatever for that?

C. No one is pointing a gun in your head to force you to make a game using Galaxy editor
if you think Blizzard is so unfair, go use Unreal, Unity, or create your own engine.

D. Blizzard already did 90% of the work, please abandon the idea that 2000 hours means anything

E. its up to Blizzard to decide your map can make a profit or not from it and how much.

F. If you still want to continue with your stupid 2000 hours argument, just keep in mind.

  1. it means nothing
  2. think why anyone on earth HAS to compensate/pay for what you did, even you put in 2000 hours into something inefficiently/effortlessly*?
  3. this is the most important one, you’re using Blizzard’s properties to create your game

*it could be effortlessly. For an example, I don’t count tweaking units’ value as an effort

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Work - Noun - activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.

How is making a map not work? I honestly don’t care either way if people want to make money off maps with donations, no one is holding anyone feet to the fire and demanding it; but to say it’s not work is inaccurate.

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can you read english? @OldWhoGotBan

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Can…can you read your own words?

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I’m sorry, but you can’t understand the context, don’t you?
if you think playing words by words is funny, im gonna change it immediately

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First you criticize my capacity to understand English and then you write this atrocity? “But you can’t read the context, don’t you?” Goodness gracious.

I can tell you what I don’t think is funny: Going to efforts to prevent people from getting voluntary donations from players who enjoy something that was a labor of love from the creator for the sake of profits for a soulless corporation that wouldn’t care either way.

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I was gonna say something else, but forgot to change, understand?

you don’t read, don’t you? read the following

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voluntary, lmfao
Yeah, its not funny, its fing hilarious
get a grip please

Not to mention, How can you see I’ve done anything to prevent those shameless “map makers” from getting VolUNtaRy DoNATIOn?