Hi guys.
SO as a noob, I try to practice vs AI. Mostly its T(me) vs P ( ai).
The main problem is , while I can win Hard diff. really easily, but I can’t do jack against Very Hard, like no chances. Can’t even imagine how you can beat unfair.
So is there a way to tell how good Very Hard ai plays, compared to a player? Like 3k or smth?
You wont learn anything about the game fighting AI… i hate to be that guy.
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The challenge is not simply to beat ai (hard/harder/very hard), the challenge is to win a macro game vs. AI without using tricks to end the game at 3-4 minute mark…
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Yeah i can confirm AI are really really good at macro. like i was spectating a replay vs an insane ai and ive seen APM jump up to 1k. Its pretty entertaining.
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If you are ONLY insistant on beating the A.I. and nothing else, liberators can make the A.I’s brain break. Not sure if Very Hard does this all the time, but Elite does. They do everything possible to stay away from the liberator zone and you can just attack them without hitting back. But improving in sc2, I’d definitely ladder or join a clan/find a practice buddy. The A.I. is pretty good at macro, and it’s multitasking is always really on point. Playing ladder can expose you to people towards your level, and finding a practice buddy may insure you won’t have to worry about cheese.
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It’s a little hard to give general advices without knowing what you’re having problem with most, but:
As other have said, the key ingredient to beating AI is to just improve your macro.
Constant worker production, constant unit production, as little supply block as possible, keeping your minerals and gas low, not forgetting upgrades, etc. etc.
Everything else - build orders, unit composition, tactical movement - comes after you’re able to produce a steady stream of units.
I know, it’s same old story, but really, if your macro is on point, you can beat Elite AI by using nothing but Marines/Zealots/Zerglings.
(Well, I’ve also beaten Elite AI by making Planetary Fortress in his main, so… it’s not a big achievement XD )
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It’s not. The AI’s apm is pretty high, nevertheless, its macro is quite bad. It will push one or two times heavily early on, but if you hold these pushes in a decent fashion, beating the AI (on brutal difficulty) should be a piece of cake even for gold-level players. Actually, the AI is pretty easy to out-macro.
“Very hard” should be something between Bronze 2 and Silver 3 which is 1500-2000 mmr.
“Brutal” should be something between high silver and gold level which is 2200-2700 mmr.
But that’s only a vague estimation.
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Check my thread.
You can kill all AI 1vs1 with terrans by proxy 6 barracks no gas and mass marines at 18 workers (16 at base and 2 at proxy). Push in when you have about 3~5 marines. If all the workers come at you, retreat until they turn back or your reinforcement arrive and attack again. The toughest is against roach opening you will need to retreat, reinforce more marines and focus fire micro to overpower that. Terran can kill any elite AI in 2:50~5:00.
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Hello Amorphiusan,
I would say “very hard” is matching to MMR 2700, that’s between Silver 1 / Gold 3 League. 
You need to improve the macro, target ist to reach 70-80 worker on 4 Base within 10 Minutes. This is possible if you use shortcuts, i would suggest the grid layout. Show Videos on Youtube from expert which explain how that work.
kind regards and have a lot of fun!
Bernd
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