No more zerg in GSL - An in depth breakdown of imbalance

[NightKnight-1214374]

ur joking right?
aaaaaaaahahaha

[Asamu-1302]

@Stretch-1311

Protoss players were whining about late game and now it’s been completely gutted. There is no strong comp or timing Zerg is abusing. The biggest issue in the match up right now are adept timings. Protoss is not having any issues with Zerg based on current tournament results.

Eh, the win rate has been at 45-48% for months, and Protoss have only 2 players in the top 15 on Aligulac right now. Overall performance for Protoss at the top end has been the lowest it has ever been for an extended period, and that’s pretty much entirely due to PvZ.

Aside from GSL, PvZ hasn’t been looking good, and if you look at the actual player match ups from GSL, none of the results are particularly surprising other than Scarlett beating Rogue, and the PvZ stats are affected by things like Armani losing 4-0 to Dear in 2 sets. The top Zerg players in the event (Dark and Rogue) were knocked out by Zerg or Terran players.

[BadHabits-1970]

if it was the only group with two zergs why were rogue and scarlett in the same group

[llllllllllll-12402]

@Spirit-21356

What range Siege tanks and Liberators have?

And when those shoot omnidirectionally and have zero Friendly fire, and siege themselves in a quarter second, you may have an argument.

[AdMech-11919]

…you do realize that only 1 Zerg got into the Ro8, and there are no Zergs in the semifinals of GSL?

If Zerg seems overpowered to you, the issue is your skills, not balance.

[Dalai-21357]

@Sentry-2358

Wow. some zergs have so much tears they can whine 2 days straight 0.o impressive. you can say about zergs what you want. their trait to evolve quickly is fascinating.

where were you some days ago, where we had a terran whiner, who cried 5 days straight about zerg?

ps: just for the lulz

Ling rushed. roach rushed.. ravager rushed

Good thing the zerg is on 3 bases with more economy. What a balanced game you created. Every game against zerg is something new. Balance your game already.

Let me play a game of sc2

oh look the zerg roach rushed did no damage. Yet is teching up to mutas. while being on 3 bases. while being the one who is the aggressor. every time i go to play this game i get a matched against a zerg. Its no fun when the other race has every advantage its so dumb.

Omg your balance is such trash is so bad

Zerg baneling busts… does no damage. And is ahead and wins the game easily. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Balance the game already. Why is this race the only race in the game that can compete. Your balance team is so bad. Hey newsflash… the person that all ins… should be behind if it…

Im zerg. i 2 base nydus all in

do 0 damage. And win easily because im zerg. My race wouldnt be incredibly broken if i couldn’t. I can just go back and build a round of drones and be ahead. Why is there no semblance of balance with this race. Every game the amount of crap this race pulls is quit honestly unreal. The other 2 races dont even come close to this level of crap. Theres a reason why everyone hates playing against this race. Its so broken.

Everytime i play against zerg

im like hey may as well try and play against zerg. Whats the worse that can happen? 5 minutes later? More spectacular bull out of this broken race. Fix it already.

Can you please nerf zerg already

Can you nerf this censor (because blizzard) race yet? so the game is playable for people that dont play zerg? They have the advantage at every stage of the game. Best early game yep. best mid game yep. best late game yep they are only weak between the 5 and 7 minute mark when they are playing a macro game. Every other time the zerg have the advantage. So please nerf them already. holy

so talking about 2 days of whine xD

[CheeseTown-11938]

JUST AS A REMAINDER. THE TOP ZERGS ARE NOT. LET ME REPEAT. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING IN THIS TOURNAMENT.

Just figured ill throw that in for context.

My odds is that Protoss win this tournament this go round.

[Ramza-11309]

Ah yes, Protoss late game.
wait, when was the last time Protoss has late game?

[WiceOrc-2256]

I want what’s fair

there cant be anything fair, otherwise you will not win. you propably just mean just want that the opponent believes it was fair lose for him.

[tEhbAtZ-1845]

@Buuge-2266

lets ignore zerg dominated the last couple of years in most major tournaments

Terran cry force: Serral farming the easiest tournaments on Earth is PROOF that zerg is OP.

Also terran cry force: The most difficult tournaments with the best skill representation and fiercest competition on Earth is NOT relevant to balance.

(It’s amazing how according to TCF logic Zerg is so overpowered with their whopping 2 Code S wins meanwhile Terran is lining up for their 9th)

[llllllllllll-12402]

@WiceOrc-2256

there cant be anything fair, otherwise you will not win. you propably just mean just want that the opponent believes it was fair lose for him.

Go take ESL classes for about 15 more years, then try again.

[Velitey19-1665]

@Buuge-2266

lets ignore zerg dominated the last couple of years in most major tournaments.

What happened in 2017-2019 is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to current game balance. I know that can be hard to process for someone that doesn’t seem to be able to use logic or thinking, but I think if you use 100% of your brain you MIGHT be able to get it, maybe…

[Dowlash-2989]

@Velitey19-1665

What happened in 2017-2019 is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT

Happening right now in 2020 at Wardi spring tournament and Stayathomestory cup:
TvZ: 43.2%
ZvP: 51.4%
PvT: 42.4%

TvZ: 42.6%
ZvP: 69.7%
PvT: 40%

With top zergs (including foreigners) playing. Top kr terran/protoss representation. While zergs are crying like it’s end of the world in ZvT protosses are literally getting demolished left and right lmao. Good riddance.
When using tournaments as focal point at least make sure there arent other big tournament that basically swing in the other direction lol.

[Ace-14902]

Actually code s winrates already hit 70% in favor of terran twice in LOTV.

[Ace-14902]

@Dowlash-2989

When using tournaments as focal point at least make sure there arent other big tournament that basically swing in the other direction lol

Why are toss and terran whiners always looking at stats for the very first time when they post?

Lol dude that’s ALWAYS the case because of the race distribution is different in korea vs eu. Always more zerg in EU and more terran in Korea.
But please, continue to pretend that youre the expert here.

[aeligos-1349]

I’m hungry.
I like cheese.
A little whine is okay.

[Dowlash-2989]

@Ace-14902

Why are toss and terran whiners always looking at stats for the very first time when they post?

Read several topics around and see who were picking tournaments out of context with no top zergs and thus crying that theres immense imbalance that seems to impact even usual ladder games.
They weren’t neither P or T.
I found this merely to do the same thing backwards. Btw those tournaments have almost even distribution of races and top players so yeah… I fail to see what you rant about after the first fail.

[Ace-14902]

@Dowlash-2989

thus

You can try to look smart…

@Dowlash-2989

They weren’t neither P or T.

But in the end…

[Dowlash-2989]

Very smart response from your side too.

Zergs pointing out useless stats out of context
ahhhh yes those stats prove my point 100%
someone posts conflicting useless stats out of context to point out it’s not a way to go about it
oh those Terrans and Protosses always WHINING with their STATS look at DISTRIBUTION

[OldWhoGotBan-1431]

If you think lurkers have crazy range, just wait until you find out about siege tanks that require no special tech or research to be useful!