Toss op vs terran, Z > P > T
GG Blizzard …
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The best players are still winning so I’d call this patch a success so far. You guys just want Serral and Reynor to lose to average Terrans… sorry that’s not happening.
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Judging by the usual posts on this forum all three races are equally overpowered and underpowered.
LUL, terran buffs and Protoss/Zerg nerffs have not yet been implemented and here we go again.
I thought that the Blizz-boost to terran would last for at least a couple of weeks, but i was mistaken!
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another ZvZ final thank you so much
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Actually the tournament is played with the balance changes.
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Reynor best zerg in the world, you heard it here first. Pretty obvious he should stop an average scrub like Inno.
Banelings and queens are so broken. Until those are nerfed zerg will rule both matchups.
Why are mass a moved banelings the answer vs armored units in zvp??? Why are they the answet vs mech in tvz??? They obviously destroy bio in tvz. Its a joke
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That’s true, but Pro-terrans are the same. No surprise here. If you play chess againt a monkey and give him as advantage your Queen 8 Soldiers and 2 Bishops you still win.
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well, actually i get the feeling, that serral and reynor MIIIIIGHT be the best players overall…but whiners gonna whine 
thats the funny part, you can nerf zerg as much as you want, both of them are simply the best players and nothng will change that.
toss has 65% in pvt and you whine about zerg? ah, because you just look at the guys in the finals, i got it simple mind you have there.
“This Z players are the best of the word”
How many times I have read this sentence after the last tournaments…
because its the truth. you should be thankfull, that dark didnt participated. otherwise, we would have 3/4 zergs in ro4 again 
Well yeah they are probably better than most on this tournament but still most match were too one sided, especially pvz late game seemed unwinnable. Considering the nerfs to zealot and adept protoss now has even less all in options to stop the game from getting late.
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I think reynor and serral must be permabanned, because you know they’re too good and the terran crying force doesn’t like to see zerg winning.
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yeah, pvz was so unwinable for toss, that they had a 62% winrate before reynor and serral killed every toss on their way.
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You can’t take statistical data from such a small sample of games and that much difference in skill lvl(sortof,tlo,zanister,bly will heavily impact the overall statistically significance) , for your information statistically the match up looks pretty balanced (50.9% in favor of zerg).
What it matters is when good protosses like zest and trap are getting steam rolled by equally good players. Also the trap/serral, zest/serral match ups showed that almost all phases of the game are zerg favored.
so on the one hand, you say, that the sample size is too small to take any balance conclusions and on the other hand, you take a hand full of games, where trap/zest lost as an argument for toss being underpowered? o0 double standards hi?
and both of them didnt get steamrolled btw. both werent that one sided like the endresult shows. but yeah, if it suits your argument, 3-6 games are enough to proof something xD
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“NEW PATCH CHANGED NOTHING” The classic meme terran doesn’t fail 
I do not remember using statistics, where are the double standards? I was pretty clear i think, Zest and Trap used every build in the book and they were unable to get a single game from serral and raynor.(9 games neither 3 or 6)
Viper,infestor,corruptor just obliterates any sky composition and if you go for a ground army Sh nydus in most maps is an uphill battle. Also the new 10 range lurker out trades immortal/archon/zealots with banes.
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And to add insult to injury MoronTeam is thinking to nerff Disruptors…