This was one of the worst Blizzcons in history. The upside though is that the Nerf Hammer is coming! Zergs will finally get what they deserve!
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The entire game is in a disastrous state. I don’t want to see anymore WCS tournaments until the game is actually balanced, fair, fun to play, and watch.
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Swarm Host should just be deleted and Nydus should be changed/nerfed. This was a disappointment.
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+1 for EXTREME truth… … … … . . … . … … … .
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I do hope that if the Nydus change is not enough, that they’re quick to hit it with another nerf. The SH is also a major issue.
Not having to commit anything, while your own free units rain down on the enemy is pretty ridiculous.
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Solid Snake is that u?
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Observers didn’t need nerfs.
The Adept Glaive upgrade didn’t need a nerf, and that proposal better not happen or else no one will build Adepts at all or get the upgrade outside of all-ins which themselves will fail because Adepts would have the painfully slow attack speed outside of the 6 seconds after shade. Such a gimmicky terrible change for the Adept that no matter how many paragraphs they tried to sell it to the community is an awful idea. Amplified Shielding was better.
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I don’t think Observer needed the movement buff to begin with.
Adept is going to be trashy and niche with this route.
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Nah, it’ll be a love-tap for Zergs. Protoss is getting shafted (again) and Terran… is kinda 50/50.
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I want to ask though, what would make the game “balanced” in your opinion? Even if the races were perfectly balanced we would still see all Z tournaments every once in a while.
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I made a topic just for you:
Yeah. I can’t talk like I used to because Blizzard filters all the ellipses. I’m actually a sane person when my rantings are filtered.
Unfortunately, that’s my opinion of the balance patch also. It amounts to some very slight tweaks to a race that flattens everything in its path.
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Hey man, hate spawns only more hate.
Zerg nerfs are already in bound. Dont kick em when theyre down or they will eagerly advocate for nerfing you, when the time is ripe. Be magnanimous in victory.
Let protoss be the ones who zergs end up pissed off at. we terrans will quietly lift our cc and float to a corner and watch the alien scum go at it until they both nerf each other to oblivion.
THEN… we strike
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The current state is a text book example of why it is important that every strategy and unit have clear drawbacks.
For instance: Tanks are powerful but weak against air, must be in siege move to be effective, vulnerable while moving.
Tempest have very long range vs air but weaker damage output.
But several of Zergs strategies and units have almost no drawbacks. Like Nydus for 50/50 is insane and have been so for a long time. It does not matter if five Nydus worms are killed, if the sixth is successful you win the game.
Also Swarm Hosts are designed to be slow of creep. But the combination of Nydus/Swarm Hosts make it so it has Swarm Hosts lose their drawback but keep all of their strengths.
Blizzard must make sure that all units and unit combos have clear drawbacks or else we get the current situation again.
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Irrational fanaticism is its purest expression. Do you know about this? StarCraft II Balance Update - October 29, 2019 — StarCraft II — Blizzard News
The real zerg players don’t care about any nerf they will continue sweeping the floor with you. We will make you feel helplessness and despair no matter what 
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I personally have no problem with Zerg, sitting on a 63% winrate in TvZ. Zerg at diamond level are fortunately horrible and can not manage their spellcasters. It does not matter if you bring a knife to a gun fight if the opponent shoots himself in the foot.
But yes at pro level the current situation is absurd. Zerg taking up more top spots in the best tournament than Protoss and Terran combined.
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If at diamond lvl, you play silver lvl Zerg, it is dissapointing.
You should compare skill lvls of players in replays of your games. It used to be running joke that Protoss wont react to sieged lib till half his mineral line is gone. Nowadays, protosses I play against notice medivac skirting line of sight of random pylon on the map, while Zerg wont react to my BC flying over half map of creep to his base…
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WCS winter isnt until late january
I dont think anyone feels like changes being made will be enough.
They changed infestor to be even stronger as supp unit and delayed nydus spam till after hive, but those are just symptoms. The main cause: Untouchable Zerg early game is still problem and will remain problem going forwards.
(Also, T BC opening and P adept strats are getting nerfed. Guess where they are used… Yes. XvZ.)