Problem: The TvP matchup post is turning into spam. I understand this is a hot topic and it’s not my desire to censor people. It’s just with so much toxicity people have over the subject and the willingness to spam topics it’s ruining my forum experience.
Solution: Make a sticky TvP matchup post at the top and merge any new TvP topics into it. This will discourage similar post spam and encourage whine terrans to go off the topic of TvP and create new discussion topics. It will force them to be creative and will also give them an echo chamber that doesn’t disturb the rest of the forum community.
I would also like a sticky post at the top of the forum for balance suggestions because many new spam topics appear frequently. A person loses to something and they get frustrated and we get a new balance whine thread.
With a Balance Suggestion sticky and TvP sticky post you can cut down redundant topics and encourage more normal discussion and allow good topics to shine. Do we really need 100 replies on a topic of people arguments?
Anyway I hope you consider my request. I’m thinking about not coming to these forums anymore and I can’t be the only casual that feels the same.
Tbh, I’m not a fan of this kind of censorship. While, I think most of the latest TvP threads are basically trash, it could lead to a slippery slope of many possibly useful threads being deleted or shuffled into a giant thread into irrelevance.
If there were actual discussion to be had, I would agree, but “Daily reminder that TvX is imbalance” is just spam, straight up. Theres nothing to discuss there, its just somebody being salty.
Having said that, stickying a thread would just encourage it. Delete and chastise people who post that kind of spam.
I don’t want to censor people. People feel that TvP had an issue and they should be able to express it. All I am saying is after a bunch of TvP post nothing new is being said and it’s just toxic for conversation.
People at this point are making TvP post to crusade and get the message to Blizzard. They are really past the point of casual conversation. They are on a mission. If I was in thier shoes I think a TvP sticky topic would make me feel validated. You wouldn’t need to post it again because it’s a sticky topic. It does the opposite of surpress you. It validates you and confirms that it’s such an issue and hot topic that it’s stuck at the top.
Honestly look past who is making the suggestion. It benefits you to have a topic stickied. It benefits everyone besides the mods who have to stay vigilant on merging new threads into it.
You want to censor something you don’t want to hear about. In addition to what Raver said, this seems like a good idea to you “until” a topic you want to discuss becomes part of a “buried-irrelevant” sticky thread at the top of the forums no one reads.
For example, there seems to be a lot of whining about terrans talking about TvP, perhaps we should sticky the threads about people who whine about terrans at the top to get rid of that toxicity, even if those sticky posts will inevitably be buried into irrelevance.
Ok first I would like to know what recent TvP post has brought any new information to the light. I have not myself seen anything ground breaking or relevant in a long time. Just people venting frustration and regurgitating the same talking points over and over again.
So if my intention was censorship, no important new information would have been hidden away. Just the frustration twords the match up with the repeated talking points.
I have seen the talking points. The message has been sent. I don’t think a person in the community exist that doesn’t understand how Terrans feel about the TvP matchup. Even the announcers during tournaments notice that a lot of Protoss have made it to the finals.
It’s gotten to the level I don’t even wanna talk about it anymore. I don’t agree or disagree because I stay out of balance discussion.
I don’t know if you ever heard the term “kicking a dead horse” or “don’t be a broken record” but that’s what’s going on.
The same topic over and over with the same talking point being toxic about the subject and being combative with anyone who disagrees is toxic and it is spam. I won’t budge from that position. TvP post at this point are spam and it does spawn toxic conversation. Nothing constructive is happenings anymore.
If people actually made TvP post that were well thought out and constructive, that contributed some new information I wouldn’t even want that particular thread merged. It’s just to bad that doesn’t happen.
Yes a hot topic that would generate many new post is usually stickied in most forums. What I’m asking for is actually normal to prevent clutter.
Honestly I would have thought the idea of having a sticky post would of been better received. I thought the reason people continue to make post was because they felt the TvP wasn’t taken seriously.
I’m suggesting a sticky and it’s a compromise. Everyone who visits the forum will have that TvP topic right up front and center at the top. The downside is your individual gripe might not stand out in a new post but that’s not the purpose you make a new post is it?
You could even moderate the opposition easier so if people troll that sticky disrespectfully it can also be dealt with. I’m only suggesting to merge the new topics that are just feelings. Any new information I would actually be interested in and would merit a new post.
Plus it isn’t just TvP. I want a separate sticky for any balance suggestions and feedback because there is a lot of hot takes in that area in general.
People make the QQ posts because theyre whiners who want attention. Giving them a sticky just validates that annoying people with their spam gets them what they want.
But it’s better to gather the whiners all in one spot than have them around all over the place.
Lfod proposal is a rational one. You as a protoss player should know that it is better to Storm over a tightly-packed group of Marines…
Or we could just do things right the first time, actually have some reasonable moderation, and develop the expectation that you shouldn’t spam pointless crap instead of encouraging it.
I know that means most of your posts would be gone too, but that’s more of a feature than a bug.
I would rather be a lurker anyway. I come here to be entertained and maybe gain some knowledge. If I wanted to listen to whiny kids I would go watch shows about bad kids and even worse parents that my wife is watching now.
After watching Avilo videos that is who I imagine when reading a lot of post on here. Like every post is Narrated by him.
You know what’s more annoying? People who attack terran players because, well, they post complaint about balance. Does that mean you are a better human being because you don’t? No. You do something worse, you update whining about a video game into personal attacks.
You, batz, goba and some other names basically formed this forum. Yes there are some annoying whiners like OhMyMind who whine on daily basis but I have never seen him attacking anyone. You guys post attack post on every terran players on a daily basis instead. Where you can get all the fun if all the post are merged right?
This is the issue I have with TvP spammers. They just don’t see the forest for the trees. You keep mentioning whine post about Terrans. What came first the chicken or the egg? I think there has been an most likely always will be more TvP whine than there will be people making post against it.
You mentioned TheBatz but his posts we’re about statistics that he put together to prove a point. Anything against your opinions you have a label for because you obviously are very protective of your world view and your right to spam it.
He made posts but it was against the TvP narrative and never specifically to point out TvP whine. I’m the only one that does that. I’ve only made about 3 original threads about TvP whine.
You keep on avoiding my talking points…
Ok there about 50 TvP whine post to 1 anti TvP whine post but if that’s a hill you want to die on…
Oh and I have brought a new angle or idea to the mix before I posted. This isn’t just another sarcastic crying post to get daddy Blizzard to notice me.
“Master 1 EU losing protoss 800 mmr under me, such a balanced, fun and well designed matchup.
I just loss a game cause my opponent came and warped 10 zealot into my main.” ,- last TvP post.
Let me translate. I lost to an opponent 800 MMR below me that I had concluded before the match I should of won. I can’t believe people play to win when they should just give up being 800 MMR below me. It was an automatic win for me but because I lost the game is not balanced and not fun.
It’s only fun and balanced when I win. That is a pure whine spam post if ever there was one homie. It’s just whiny sarcasm. You really can’t see why I want a merge!!??!?! You blind??