Mine change does nothing

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The mine change does nothing if you get an observer or an oracle.

Terran and Zerg need to get detection why should Protoss be any different?

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…The observer is detection? I don’t get your point

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I liked the part where Terran needs to get detection.They never do and still have one BUT BUT BUT 225 MINERAL HAHAHAHAH

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the observer and oracle are detection…and are basically the first unit you build from your robo or Stargate. Good luck with twilight first builds now.

I rarely see terran building any detection when they have scans. Most just start building turrets when they see a dt come in

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My biggest problem with this is no twilight opening how are we now to stop that 1 terran push is new overcharge that good or em i missing something

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You can still start twilight, you used to make the robo at around 4 minutes anyways. I haven’t checked this myself, but according to pylon show, earliest you can do the drop and have armory is about 450. So, you would just micro the probes away as you make an observer, and you can target the medivac, he has to pick the mines up or he will lose them once an obs out. You’ll also have to go charge/forge armor upg first. Can’t do blink first anymore.

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I dont get it why first armor upgrade not apply on worker shield yes but not armor

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Nothing like eliminating builds from the game. As if the meta isn’t stale enough

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Vs marines, the attack upgrade makes less of a difference than the armor upg. With +1 attack, it takes the same amount of swipes to kill a marine, but with +1 armor, it takes 7 more attacks from the marine to kill the zealot if the marine is unupgraded, and it negates the +1 attack, if the marine is upgraded.

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Welp it doesnt change anything cause now enough stimrolll witch mine in front and go without tanks

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Because Protoss want a “Free Win” button.

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If you see they are really going for the mines plus armory, they will die to a chargelot warping, or the mines will have to stay at home anyways. Plus, now you can focus down the armory to make them visible again.

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Yeah it is not even much of an improvement. If Protoss gets detection Terran has just wasted 100 gas and 150 minerals on an early armory that is useless to get so early in the game.

The only advantage is against Protoss players that play ultra greedy and skip all detection. But against a normal Protoss player the mine change has almost no effect.

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