Been seeing a lot of cyclone plays TVX, makes me wanna ask the question, was this added so that Terrans could have a more macro oriented approach to playing and just A move mech unit composition, I would think that a high mobility unit capable of kiting and intercepting med drops would require a lot of micro, but in mass it seems to be a viable play, what are some thoughts on it for the new meta.
from what i have faced off against as zerg there definately not amove units. There still pretty weak if you catch them. For the other races im sure its a bit harder being that most zerg units are a bit faster but as for against zerg there kinda just the same they always been just more annoying cause there enmass now compared to before where you would see maybe 4 or 5 at a time.
I can honestly say that cyclones are extremely niche units. From a fair amount of experimentation, I’ve only really found that they’re “kind of okay” for early game units. They have very specific points in time in which they’re decent; specifically in tandem with 4-6 helions for clearing creep and overlords. outside of 1 or 2 there, they serve very little purpose.
They’re significantly worse at base defense in TvP (for sniping prisms coming in) than they used to be despite being cheaper, and they’re almost completely useless in TvT against BCs which was really their only niche use in TvT before.
They can be barely passable units in tandem with reapers and helions super early, but that’s about it.
The new Cyclone is REALLY bad. They so slow, so squishy. Very poor damage. They have some uses in TVT in the early game and a few niche cases in TVZ like if you’re going mech and don’t have an armory if your opponent gets muta (but you’re usually dead in that case, anyway).
NOTHING NEW for an intelligent designer
They’re honestly not very good. Any decent allin they could have done is hampered by their build time and outside of a battle mech opener they’ve lost almost all purpose.
Can’t really use them to stop TvT BCs anymore, they’re at best, OK at shooing away Oracles and Prisms now…they’re just not very useful anymore for their cost. Anything they do, something Terran has already does better.
Which is really frustrating because it effectively means BC openers are almost an auto win when you don’t open IM raven, sadly.
I have a nasty all-in where I do a BC follow-up to a 2 Medevac 1 tank drop. It feels almost auto win because the Raven is out of energy when the BC shows up.
Thanks! I hate it.
Lol.
In all seriousness, BCs have effectively become unkillable TvT because marines do 2 damage to them. Vikings are great, assuming they don’t just get yamato’d down, and you 100% need multiple ravens to take them out because otherwise they can hit critical mass surprisingly easily and overrun you.
yeah poor terrans- meanwhile pure GSL domination
Didn’t say a thing about Terran. I was talking about the Cyclone.
Take your crybaby BS somewhere else, kid.
i can read your mind
If you could read my mind, you’d know that I don’t think Terran is weak at the top level at all.
Least of all in the GSL
well, then my Gammawaves get blocked it seems
Now the only real chance is thors with HIP and mass repair lol.
Raven Viking is still really good.