I give additional notes to every unit because some of you have problems with thinking.
Zerg:
Swarm Hosts - destroys whole mech and is very strong VS Protoss overall,
Ultralisks - destroys whole bio in late game (ghosts snipe doesn’t work due to zerglings preventing the snipe ability - and you can’t cover ghosts because you kite and split your bio VS banelings).
Now the units that should be reverted:
Thor - the new Thor is acting weird and looks stupid, even the animation isn’t fluent when you try to kite. They just did a bandaid fix to Thors - they work almost the same but looks weird.
Zealot - bring back old zealots, zealots with a movement of speedlings are weird aswell. I feel like I play some comedy mod of StarCraft. What will be next? Marines climbing?
Some other things to fix:
Zerg community which constantly ruins the game with their stupid ideas and constant whine. I actually don’t believe balance team really listen to them but it seems like they do. Balance team should be independant and for once listen to any other race. I MEAN ANY OTHER RACE. It doesn’t need to be Terran. We can even buff protoss to the sky but just nerf zerg. Atleast Protoss doesn’t have free units so I would prefer to fight against OP protoss instead of OP zerg with free units and supersonic speedlings and eco grow. It could bring back many players again.
I really would like to see on which statistics your random nerf ideas are made of.
Why do you see the need to nerf zerg? There are two options. If you wanna be treated as a biased guy (judging on literally 99% of your posts, thats what you obv are) you will say things like “free units are a bad design”, despite the fact, that both, sh and especially ultras (wtf you wanna nerf useless ultras even more…) are played veeeery rarely nowadays as a result of recent nerfs.
2nd option is you wanna be seen as unbiased, which would mean, that you would deliver statistics as a reason, why you wanna nerf a) zerg in general and b) those units explicitly.
The most unbiased source we have right now (aligulac) shows clearly, that terran is massively favoured in tvz (57,8% in around 450 games). So why do you think, that zerg needs to be nerfed?
So balance patch notes say, that zerg is op? Cmon, atleast try to argue like an adult. I really wanna take you serious, but you have to do your part of it…
Oh and btw, YOU are suggesting nerfs, so YOU are the whiner here, unless you can clearly proof, that those nerfs are needed.
Ok so it seems like youve choosen option three:
Act like a child and dont argue at all. Okay, im fine with that. Seems you dont want to be taken serious then.
Then reply to my other question. Where do you take the need for zerg nerfs from? If you arent biased (and i bet you would say that youre not and you want a balanced game), you have to back nerfs off with statistics and not only opinions.
I don’t know… MAYBE FOR EXAMPLE FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE of ALL RACES? Yes I play mostly Terran but I could feel the “difficulty” of zerg race ending on almost the same MMR with a little knowledge. If I would play zerg a bit longer than I did and starting from the beginning I wouldn’t be master like I was as Terran… I WOULD BE GRANDMASTER ALREADY. The zerg does have advantage in casual leagues starting from platinum. Why platinum? Because it’s the league where people start to “think” and they know a bit about counters etc. even if they can’t macro or micro but the counter wins - and zerg has the best answer to everything. Starting from platinum you get all the *vZ your stomach can take. And you can see only A-move from these people. The problem starts at diamond 1+ when they perfectly knows the units counters and actually start to micro a bit or surround you. They can be worse but still win. Not to mention tournaments seems to be one side too. Usually better Terran player VS worse zerg player and zerg mostly still manages to win.
Ah yeah, also pure imagination. No facts to be seen here, only opinions.
Also, thats your impression. You dont know the exact reason for this. Maybe its because new players tend to choose terran as their main, since it looks the most familiar to most of the people. Or because terran is the first campaign? Thats much more logic than your opinion. But at the end, both are opinions, since we dont have data for this. So why should your opinion be more right than mine?
Straight up lie.
About which matches are you talking about?
Again, if you wanna be unbiased, take statistics as a proof for your points, that how science works. They dont do imply things because they have an opinion about it. They proof their claims with statistics.
They tend to choose Terran as main because they think it’s much easier. Then end in low league. Then they play and learn basics and then switch the race to zerg. Then they get diamond and whine on the forum about “DAMN THESE IMBA TERRANS HEY HO HEY HO BATTLECRUISER HAS TO GO”. They are similiar to you.
Zerg a-move isn’t a lie. You CAN’T micro MELEE units!
About my personal matches or about random tournament games I sometimes watch on the youtube.
Back in WoL I posted a statistics how zerg won 24 tournaments and Terran won 3 after a queen buff and people like you called me a whinner.
Oooor they try out multiplayer and see, that it isnt fun to them, since they obv get murdered by more expierenced players. So you naturally end up with a high number of terran accs in low leagues. Again, your opinion against mine. Both can be true or false. Noone knows.
But what about viper, lurker, muta, hydras, banes, infestor, sh? All a click? The “argument” that zerg is a move only is both, really really dumb and really really biased.
I rly ask myself, if you recognize, how you always talk about YOUR experience. This is the prime example, what biased means.
Oh nice, so you used statistic once… like 10 years ago! How about using it now?
It’s a move in the large lategame 1v1 fights. Yes, zerg need some kind of micro when they harass with mutas. But it’s still easier to harass with mutas than with marine medivac drop. Mutas moves through everything, marines doesn’t and you need to load/unload.
Now youre switching topics. You said that zerg is a move. Now you say, that zerg needs micro. So to conclude this, you were wrong and corrected yourself - nice!
Last tournament is almost 2 months ago. So who knows. But yes, serral is the favourite to win iem, but not because of his race, but because hes a league above anyone skillwise.
I know you’re super un-biased. So you must have glanced over this thread.
You should hurry up and protect terran from this clear horrendous OP in this thread when you have the chance. You know, because you’re not biased after all.
Im all out for discussions about opinions, aslong as they can be supported with facts. To say something like “nerf sh because i lost 5 games to it” isnt constructive. If you wanna suggest balance changes, you have to proof why they are needed in an objective way, in other words, with statistics.
If he would say something like “i feel like sh are too strong, because i lost some games to it, whats your opinion” i would love to discuss about it, but he treats his opinion like its a fact.
Who said im not biased? Its not possible to be completely unbiased. Thats why i suggest using statistics, because theyre not opinion based…
Sometimes, you guys argue in such a dumb fashion, its unbelievable.
You do this thing where you admit to being biased, but then support biased statistics, claiming they aren’t biased.
In a nutshell, you tear down terran and support zerg, but you claim you do it because of stats that aren’t biased. It doesn’t make sense. Because zerg currently holds a record of 60% wins in premier tournaments.
Which biased statistics am i using? You talking about aligulac? How can this be biased?
And i dont only support zerg (btw its not my fault, when the dumbest threads come from terrans), but i also argue against batz and ace from time to time. Thing is, they are all more reasonable than a dualblades or thyphoon…