It's really not rocket science

No, I’m saying that every race gets free workers because every race starts with 50 minerals that they recieve for free. They don’t even have to spend energy or mine minerals to get it, they’re just given them for free. Its literally the same logic as this:

Just less exaggerated.

tehbatz i want to lay it out to you again pls teel me where the free minerals are in this system

mules are: orbitals that cost money ->free workers ->free mining -> free marines
workers are: workers that cost money -> free mining -> free marines
please tell me where the free minerals are

xD

No, I’m not. I’ve said that receiving minerals for an energy cost is bad and is a form of free units. 12 starting workers has no relationship to that whatsoever.

Yes you are. Its literally the crux of your claim. Were just applying it to the other workers in the game, since mules don’t exist in a vacuum.

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tehbatz can you respond to my last point? idk if you read it.

So you ARE saying that zerg and protoss can make workers from energy.

Batz, you cant even pretend that’s actually what is being said. Why do you insist on looking like a fool? Do you get off on being mocked?

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tehbatz can you respond to my other comment pls : ( i used all of my brainpower to write it.

The difference is:
A drone costs minerals → mines minerals → minerals weren’t free because the drone that mined them wasn’t free → not free marines.

Mule doesn’t cost minerals → mines minerals → minerals were free because the mule that mined them was free → free marines.

Nope. The drone was paid for with free minerals, which makes it free. Although you still wont get marines from a drone, that’s for a different reason entirely.

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no because again you left out the orbital that cost money, that is where your logic breaks down please explain

I don’t have to pretend when that is literally what you said. I said the problem is that Terran can make workers from energy. You said the 12 worker start proves me wrong. You are saying that protoss and zerg can make workers from energy.

The 12 worker start does not prove that Zerg and PRotoss make workers from energy.

The 12 worker start is not relevant to my argument that terran shouldn’t get workers from energy.

You straw manned my argument, again, and blamed me for it, again.

yes exactly both of them are free minerals by his logic

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No, you said the problem is that terran gets free units because the MULE pays for them with free minerals. Stop lying batz, we can all see your posts.

Which is only possible because Terran can make workers from energy.

Not at all. As demonstrated previously, it is in fact the default condition of the game if you allow the logic established by you.

tehbatz i dont understand how just because an orbital uses free mules to mine instead of a free mining ability that the worker has, that makes it free money, and you have yet to bring up a decent counterpoint

So you ARE saying that Zergs and Protoss are guilty of making infinite free workers from energy?

Please quote where I said that. If it doesn’t involve the word “energy” then it doesn’t count and youre knowingly lying.

You have moved the goalposts again from free minerals equals free units to energy equals minerals (which, if there are no minerals on the map, is demonstrably false).